I think the issue Cas have is the same issue we with Radford as Head Coach in that he still seems very much stuck in his old ways, which was fine for the cup runs we had but no good for week in week out consistently high performances as we saw with our league form which was worse than the peaks and troughs under Gentle not withstanding the winless streaks.

I will be eternally grateful for the two Cups wins he helped bring but in all honesty looking at things objectively it seems more the teams we had in 16 & 17 were a bigger part behind those wins than Radford as the Coach.

Lets be honest there were rumours of unrest amongst some senior players while at Radford was still the coach so it may well be that some of the Cas players are not too impressed but that is thankfully Cas' problem as we are hopefully now finally turning the corner since the days of 5 drives & a kick an dour rugby with the same old dirge week in week out.

I did notice when they played against Rovers they used the same tap penalty move (on the 10) that we used for the last few years (shaping to move left then quickly switching it back for a crash ball to the centre). It didn't look half as good with Cas doing it as it used to when we did it.

Scott out for 12 weeks, that's a real shame, I'm sure he got injured last year at Cas when he was having a good game.

To much being made about Radders. Goodness me have you played the game. The bloke has his faults but he's a good bloke who speaks his mind. To many take it to heart. Typical paper news trying to whip up a storm. Watts wasn't even starting for cas last year. IMO don't need him back. Radford had his faults who doesn't? Time to move on

That's a big shame for Scott as he was looking quite comfortable in the centres and against Salford was having a great game until he to leave the field. Fingers cross for a speedy recovery for him.

Carlos likely to be out for another 2-3 weeks too according to BH.

Thought best 40 min Scott had played to

Wynne or Vulikijapani in then?

Wynne to centre?

Not much is being made about him, just speculating and commenting on his recent remarks, we moved on last year but we are allowed to pick the bones of what is said , should we feel like it as it is a topic for conversation and nobody said he's not a good bloke to my knowledge. The remark about Watts coming back was firmly tongue in cheek and at his age, we've already had his best years in a black and white shirt.
Shame for Cam Scott, would have done his confidence the world of good to get a run in a side that was in form and winning games (if we beat Cas). Mau and Savellio back will help and allow Griffin to play centre, with possibly Carlos fit, although I wouldn't risk him if it is a bit touch and go, promote Wynne back to the first team, if the reported attitude problem is resolved. I like him, he does have a bit of mongrel in him and rarely looks out of place.

think most of us would agree with that but something seems to have gone on with him having been left out last week when his performances merited his inclusion at centre.
McIntosh looked comfortable last week in the centre so i wouldnt mind leaving him there and bringing Mitch in on the wing.
Should have a strong bench for a change

Spot on

Pretty much with you. It’s pleasing even with Carlos still being out, Cam Scott now out for 12 weeks and Wynn possibly dropped last week that we still have a decent option in moving McIntosh to centre and bringing Mitch in to cover the wing spot.

Rumour that Mcintosh out with calf injury plus Wynne suspended.

FFS

That is not becometh of a lady.

Wynne suspended? I’ve not seen a ban anywhere?

Sounds like the club have suspended him, if true.

Leeds looking like they’ve lost Newman injured, Smith possible ban and Leeming definite ban.

If those are out, Mitch on the wing and Walker centre

Think I may have confused you HR. Nothing to do with my user name on here but everything to do with my actual name. So a player in the 1970 Ashes win who featured in 2 winning games. I am 100% certain Rider knows the answer.

Re Freddie Miller. He was my favourite player when I first started watching Hull aged 8 back in the mid-40's and was loved by the Boulevard crowd so no surprise to learn of your dad being his biggest fan.

Just a final bit of trivia. My mum knew FM's family very well and when my parents ran a pub in the 'Old Town' around the start of WW2 my mum told me that on a few occasions FM babysat me.

Good morning Freddie, I certainly do.

I think our Freddie, is referring to the Freddie Miller who played for Hull & Featherstone, he was I think inducted to the Fev Hall of Fame, and I remember talk of the Freddie Miller gates at the ground, though I never managed to see them.

The possible confusion could be a Fred Miller who played even earlier in the 1800s who was a rugby Union forward, but on Wikipedia it has him down as also playing for Hull, not sure this is correct, but I’ve not double checked, and is way before my time.

Back on topic, we need a strong defensive performance at Cas, and not fall into all the hype of Cas being out of form etc, make no mistake Radders & Cas will be targeting this game, and only our best will be good enough, they are desperate for a win.

Glad Sav is back, he should shore the middle up with Evans, keep it tight in defence, then let Connor open them up.

Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"I think our Freddie, is referring to the Freddie Miller who played for Hull & Featherstone, he was I think inducted to the Fev Hall of Fame, and I remember talk of the Freddie Miller gates at the ground, though I never managed to see them.'" Freddie played for Hull from 1932 to 1950 before leaving for Featherstone. I went to see him play at Wembley in 1952 but his team was outgunned by a Workington side captained by a true legend of the game- Gus Risman. I have a photo somewhere from 1985 showing my wife and me standing outside the FM memorial gate shown in the blog about him below. I believe the gate is still there. https://marklaspalmas.blogspot.com/2013 ... iller.html

Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"I think our Freddie, is referring to the Freddie Miller who played for Hull & Featherstone, he was I think inducted to the Fev Hall of Fame, and I remember talk of the Freddie Miller gates at the ground, though I never managed to see them.'" Freddie played for Hull from 1932 to 1950 before leaving for Featherstone. I went to see him play at Wembley in 1952 but his team was outgunned by a Workington side captained by a true legend of the game- Gus Risman. I have a photo somewhere from 1985 showing my wife and me standing outside the FM memorial gate shown in the blog about him below. I believe the gate is still there. https://marklaspalmas.blogspot.com/2013 ... iller.html

So who's unavailable?
Wynne
Scott
Tuimavave
McIntosh
Gale
Taylor
Ma'u
Cator

Of those 8 you'd say 6 are in our first choice 17, not great is it? Seem to get a couple back and lose a couple.