Hull's statement, Gleeson was charged on June 9th, based on Gleeson's activity from then (Longy's twitter) I have a hard time believing this.

CLUB STATEMENT
By Laura Smith | Thursday, 23 June 2011
Hull FC can confirm that Martin Gleeson has not been sacked.

On Friday 10 June Hull FC granted Martin leave because of a stress related illness. The club ask that the media respect his right to privacy at this difficult time. There will be no further comment from the player or the Club.

Not sure what you’re getting at re the comments about twitter and don't want too assume. Care to explain?

Longy was posting about various activities with his mate Gleese, going to concerts, bars, clubs etc.

What he said. Unlucky Mr Rule



What it has also done, unfortunately, is drag Hull FCs name through the mud. Makes you wonder who else knew about it....

He didn't check directly with Cooper but used a supplement he had been assured had been cleared by him. At the end of the day the information came from Cooper, albeit via a second party, and if he HAD asked Cooper he'd have received the same duff response. I'm not sure that UKDA would have made a distinction, which makes it all the more stupid to have concocted the story that he'd checked direct. AFAIK the anti-doping agencies consider all third-party information the same way and have placed ultimate responsibility on the athletes themselves to ensure that the information they receive is correct.

And Gary Speed was out laughing & joking with his mates the day before he hung himself.

wonder if we end up with points deduction

Spot on Kosh we go to our Doctor's and we put our trust in them ..They give us Drug's and other medicine and we take it ..For some people to say about his depression there are signs and symptoms, you know what to look for when you have had first hand experience ..But till then people should know better then saying he didn't suffer with depression ..We never dealt with him on a day to day basic

Why?

Wigan wasnt docked points when Hock was on cocaine,Sts wasnt when Cunningham got done.

Thank god that bleeding board has gone.

You don't think the timing is a bit of a coincidence ?

Also wondering why the previous board were so quick to sell when Adam came a-knocking, when they'd been so reluctant in the past.

And, whether our former chief exec has perjured himself? Is evidence before this tribunal under oath?

Neither was their official club conditioner involved, not their CEO complicit in a cover-up though. Nigel Wood has said we're guilty of bringing the game into disrepute. Not clear-cut one way or the other IMO.

Again I'll ask what evidence do you have other than hearsay and rumour to support Gleeson's alleged depression. People seem to be accepting this as a fact. Surely we should have learnt by now that many alleged facts on here and elsewhere turn out to be nothing of the sort.

I think it’s entirely possible that Rule used Gleeson’s existing condition to cover up the drugs thing. Given Gleeson’s history it’s not hard to believe that he had problems and has suffered from mental illness. Depression can make you do stupid and irrational things.

Very embarrassing for the club, despite the 3 guilty individuals no longer anything to do with us.

Just another example of what a complete shower of s**te the previous ownwers were. They continually tried to do things on the cheap, and and this instance, as in so many others, their cheap options (cheif exec and conditioner) just wernet up to the task.

Glad none of them are no longer with us, although I am dissapointed that Rule was allowed to take the easy option and resign, I would have much rather that he had been sacked for his part in this sorry affair.

As said already, given Rules's generous self-love, I'm surprised he'd risk it all for what amounted to a knackered player trying to lose some weight, hardly a cup final riding on it.

Next you'll be suggesting he never really intended to go after Paul Cooke for compensation despite declaring this intention at a public fans forum.

Not only us that has ever brought the game into diserupte...did sts get done when Long and Gleeson bet against them?...did sts get done when they rested a full team.

Just read the tribunal findings, tbh its Rule I'm most hacked off with.

Cooper seems to have been a prat that didn't check things properly, Long trusted his advice and told Gleeson the pills were Ok to take.

Gleeson was a prat and took them without checking with cooper (but would most likely have been told the same as Long).

But just what Rule hoped to achieve by messing about and trying to cover things up to a degree I really can't get my head round.

Was just coming to that...

Did you deal with him on a day to day basic to know if it was true or fault If I had that contract with him I might have known one way or another ..I have been through depression with somebody but I was with them every day to see it also I took in what the Doctor said

I get your point, but sts staff weren't involved in the betting. As for the team resting, maybe it was investigated and not proven.

I just hope that the new broom will protect the club

Yeah, can't see why someone might come down with depression soon after finding out that he's tested positive for a banned substance and his career is probably over. I mean it's not as if he'd only recently had to deal with some other extremely stressful personal issues or anything.

And again I'll ask you what evidence you have that he wasn't/isn't dealing with depression.

People are accepting that on the balance of probability it's likely that he had/has depression. That's not the same as accepting it as fact.

The point being that McManus AFAIK did not try to cover up the betting scandal. The players were individually punished, but there was no suggestion that their board knew about it and lied about it and that the club was therefore complicit in the individual transgressions. This is a bit different IMO. There may be broader consequences - it's possible.

He is coaching at Salford.