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| Quote ="Easty"All a bit strange when you consider Rhys Lovegrove counts on our quota for homegrown players
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Nothings strange where your rule bending aussie mob are.
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| Quote ="hull smallears"Why does Galea only count on one list then and not both? He's an Australian fed trained is he?'" Qualifies for the pre 2008 exemption.
So he strangly stays on the quota but comes off the non fed.
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| So?
Quota
McKinnon 2013 - Australian passport - ON
O'meley 2012 - Australian passport - ON
Obst 2012 - Australian Passport - ON
Manu 2012 - Resident - OFF
Heremaia 2013 - New Zealand Passport - ON
Fitzgibbon 2011 - Australian Passport - ON
Lauaki 2011 - Tongan Passport - OFF
Moa 2011 - Tongan Passport - OFF
Non Fed
McKinnon 2013 - ON
O'meley 2012 - ON
Obst 2012 - In UK pre 2008 - OFF
Manu 2012 - In UK pre 2008 - OFF
Heremaia 2013 - In UK pre 2008 - OFF?
Fitzgibbon 2011 - ON
Lauaki 2011 - ON
Moa 2011 - ON
This looks about right to me, so in theory we could re sign everyone.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"So?
Quota
McKinnon 2013 - Australian passport - ON
O'meley 2012 - Australian passport - ON
Obst 2012 - Australian Passport - ON
Manu 2012 - Resident - OFF
Heremaia 2013 - New Zealand Passport - ON
Fitzgibbon 2011 - Australian Passport - ON
Lauaki 2011 - Tongan Passport - OFF
Moa 2011 - Tongan Passport - OFF
Non Fed
McKinnon 2013 - ON
O'meley 2012 - ON
Obst 2012 - In UK pre 2008 - OFF
Manu 2012 - In UK pre 2008 - OFF
Heremaia 2013 - In UK pre 2008 - OFF?
Fitzgibbon 2011 - ON
Lauaki 2011 - ON
Moa 2011 - ON
This looks about right to me, so in theory we could re sign everyone.'"
Does that mean that any overseas player who played here prior 2008 but then went home can now come back and be quota exempt? Cant see that to be honest.
Rovers would have a field day!
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| Only guessing RBA but I'd think so.
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| Oops forgot about Phelps, He's on both lists!
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Only guessing RBA but I'd think so.'"
I think i remember Quins releasing Rinaldi due to quota restrictions prior to the 2008 ruling. When the ruling was put into place the RFL wouldnt allow Rinaldi to take advantage of it because he had broken service. Might be wrong and things may have changed since. To be fair there have been that many exemptions since then pretty much anything goes.
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| You maybe right mate, I can't remember if I read it right but he may have had to apply for it in 2007?
Tbh I'm waiting for Kosh, he seems to know the rules well.
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| Quote ="Roverswall"Qualifies for the pre 2008 exemption.
So he strangly stays on the quota but comes off the non fed.'"
He has a UK passport (family from Swindon iirc - my word, these rules have turned me into a borderline stalker ) so isn't quota either. He should be fed-exempt and non-quota - in fact he has a dispensation and counts as [iclub[/i-trained. He only just needed the dispensation - if he'd been a few months younger or joined a few months earlier, he'd have qualified on the rules as they then stood (or there may have been a retcon, I forget).
Quote ="R.B.A"Does that mean that any overseas player who played here prior 2008 but then went home can now come back and be quota exempt? Cant see that to be honest.
Rovers would have a field day!
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No, [uI think[/u if they cease to be registered with a RFL club for a time, they can't return with fed-exempt status.
For Hull I think we can ignore quota, for simplicity.
Non-fed for 2012: McKinnon, Heremaia, O'Meley (assuming he takes his option).
Non-fed but ooc - Moa, Lauaki, Fitzgibbon, Phelps. A maximum of 2 of these can be retained.
(Neither Manu Obst or Manu are non-fed).
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| Quote ="Sheldon"You maybe right mate, I can't remember if I read it right but he may have had to apply for it in 2007?
Tbh I'm waiting for Kosh, he seems to know the rules well.'"
I know them as well as anyone I guess. Not sure that makes me any kind of authority on them, mind - the RFL seem to make up their interpretation of them to suit whatever outcome they fancy.
When the pre-2008 exemption was first introduced it was only for players who were signing a new contract at their existing club and they had to apply before the end of the last year of their current contract. This was then changed so that they could sign for [iany[/i club and the exemption followed them for the rest of their career. They still had to apply in the final year of their existing contract though. Then it seemingly changed again so that you could apply before the final year of your contract if you signed an extension to that contract - the first example of this that I'm aware of was Manu. He had a year left on his existing contract when he signed an extension but was still allowed to apply for and be granted the exemption.
If we rely on the rules as applied so far then unless AH applied for and was granted the exemption before he left the UK game then he shouldn't be able to get it now and should count as Non-Fed. Not sure I'd bet against some kind of 'special dispensation' applying though - seems to be all the rage.
What age was he when he started playing over here? That could be a factor if he was very young.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"For Hull I think we can ignore quota, for simplicity.
Non-fed for 2012: McKinnon, Heremaia, O'Meley (assuming he takes his option).
Non-fed but ooc - Moa, Lauaki, Fitzgibbon, Phelps. A maximum of 2 of these can be retained.
(Neither Manu Obst or Manu are non-fed).'"
That's what I make it as well. Of the three OOC the current scuttlebutt is pointing at only Moa being retained, leaving one spot to be filled.
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| Mid 20's, he played in the Nsw cup before he came over.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Mid 20's, he played in the Nsw cup before he came over.'"
Yup - just checked and he was 24. That rules out qualifying as Fed Trained by being registered with the RFL for three full seasons before becoming too old to play Academy.
I reckon that he [ishould[/i count on the Non-Fed list.
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| Quote ="Kosh"That's what I make it as well. Of the three OOC the current scuttlebutt is pointing at only Moa being retained, leaving one spot to be filled.'"
Seems most likely. A forward, you'd assume - or if nobody suitable is available give Lauaki another season/persuade CF to do one last year.
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| Quote ="Kosh"That's what I make it as well. Of the three OOC the current scuttlebutt is pointing at only Moa being retained, leaving one spot to be filled.'"
Yeah Moa (assuming the deal can be done) plus another forward from the NRL and that will mean Fitz, Lauaki and Phelps going home.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Yup - just checked and he was 24. That rules out qualifying as Fed Trained by being registered with the RFL for three full seasons before becoming too old to play Academy.
I reckon that he [i=#0040BFshould[/i count on the Non-Fed list.'"
och aye he should
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