We'll all be optimistic on Sunday after trouncing Doncaster....

There’s a lot of worry here but smiths made it pretty clear Balmforth isn’t playing because of his shoulder.

It’s a preseason friendly that balmforth isn’t available for. I’d like to think/hope it’s just smith tinkering for the eventuality we lose Houghton/balmforth or both.

Smith isn’t Radders and actively wants his sides to play with the ball, I can’t imagine him wanting poorer delivery from the PTB

We all know we are world beaters when we win and sack of doo doo when we lose so at least consistency is never lacking



Got to say after the past 4 plus demoralising seasons and eternal hope of a new dawn each season and it failing to appear I am going in to this season with a fairly open mind follow the number of changes to the squad.

Wasn't going to go on Sunday. But I'm edging to go and have a look. I'm pretty excited TBH but in fairness I am most pre seasons

People say about lack of attacking threat

But Houghton has never been a real attacking threat

Name me a hooker who can't tackle....

And I wouldn't play cator at all

Alot more will go now its a full strength team

How many roughly went to Bradford?

You told me you were going to all three preason games. knew it.

Was working in the end !

Was “working” on your excuse more like.

Saints 18 to 21 year olds just got beat by Swinton, I wonder if they aren't good enough to be used in SL games.

Very funny

Just wish we had players like Makinson, percival, lomax, welsby, walmsley etc who would get in majority of clubs in world rugby league!

I can confirm he was definitely working.
Saw him with a shovel digging a really big hole.

Walmsley didnt come through Sts ranks…He was in the championship at Batley?…As for majority of them in world rugby…Welsby yes as for others…Percival always injured,Lomax isn’t the player he was and always thought Walmsley a flat track bully and who kept putting him on his arris when we batterd them last season…Your mate Fash.

Bennison, Hurrell and a few other first teamers in too. Worrying signs for the Saints

Personally think Sts are creaking and aren’t the force they was…signings are a bit lowkey and Wellens isn’t a good coach imo…they beat us in the cup then puts Knowles at hooker for the league match and Smith totally out coaches him.The fact that Holbrook turned down wire speaks volumes as I think he will be back at Sts.

They'll still be top 3 but they have an aging squad. Be interesting to see if Wellens can manage this transition.

Yeah I think Saints will still be around the top but unless some other teams get hit with a bad run of injuries then they'll go another year without winning anything again.

They was a moment of Tompkins brilliance from another grand final

They'd have beaten Wigan imo

Catalan froze in the final saints big final experience wouldn't of made the same mistake

Looks like all the trophies will be going to the Wigan borough once again, That includes Leigh as well of course.

Saints will be fine, they still have a great squad and the best academy, they lose players they bring some more through, we need to get to that stage and I don't think we are far off in terms of production line.

Really looking forward to toady and seeing the new guys, not expecting huge things as it will most first game.

Good article with Pearson, club looking in a decent position, looking to get a couple more people on the board to boost financed, hopefully get one or two on board in the next year or two, don't think it would take alot of investment to get us competing again.

The quality of youngsters is the big issue tho

We have to go back as far as Richard Horne to have the same quality as welsby

In terms of numbers playing the game we should be higher than saints

But the standard of player isn't great last 10 years through our youth

As for the game I saw the handicap betting us -24 which i thought was printing money until I saw the Doncaster team

Plenty of ex super league players will be no mugs be a good first hit out

We know, you say this everyweek , no one disagrees with you, so not sure why the need to say this over and over again.

You can see why half this forum has you on ignore.

Good some are morons like the person yesterday trying to say he'd rather have a injury prone josh bowden over a always fit LMS ......