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| Can't see many clubs if any offering a straight 3 year deal TBH for a 32 yr old no matter how good he is.
Think its his agent either trying to get more money or a longer deal, it may now be a case of deciding if a 3 yr deal with us is worth more than a gamble on a 1 or 2 year deal elsewhere.
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| Quote ="Albion"If you've offered 3 years then I hope we don't replicate that length of contract.'"
It would go against your clubs general stance on over 30s. Stranger things have happened though.
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| Quote ="Chris71"Can't see many clubs if any offering a straight 3 year deal TBH for a 32 yr old no matter how good he is.
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How long have we given Ellis?
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"How long have we given Ellis?'"
A month till he gets injured!
Taxi!!!
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"How long have we given Ellis?'"
Ellis is two years younger than Manu. (Ellis is 30, Manu is 32 atm).
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Pulatua and Solomona are two which spring to mind who play like Manu but are a little more explosive IMO.'"
our definitions of explosive must be different! Never have i seem solomona take a crap ball n make a 30 40 50 yard break out of nothing with a massive step hand off n back like pace! solomona is Strong,skillfull n amazing offloader but too me quite different to Willi. TP little bit more like manu,but does most of his eye catchin stuff off the back of his sheer size n power,with some great hands!
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| Quote ="Panda92"Ellis is two years younger than Manu. (Ellis is 30, Manu is 32 atm).'"
Wont Ellis be 32 in his first year here?
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| Just had a text from a mate whos wife works at Sirius who tells me Manu has agreed the deal .. all to be announced!
god i hope so
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"Wont Ellis be 32 in his first year here?'"
According to Wiki, Ellis was born on 3rd May 1981 and Manu on 20th March 1980. So Manu is a little over a year older.
Ellis will technically still be 31 when he starts playing for us.
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| Quote ="Kosh"According to Wiki, Ellis was born on 3rd May 1981 and Manu on 20th March 1980. So Manu is a little over a year older.
Ellis will technically still be 31 when he starts playing for us.
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And 32 in his first year
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"And 32 in his first year
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And Manu will be 33
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| Hull signing Gareth Ellis was always going to make it a more expensive process persuading Manu to stay. Manu and his agent know full well his importance to Hull and they will have been holding out for comparable terms to what Ellis recieved. Judging by the HDM comments and Shaun Mcrae interview he has got them.
Short term you have got yourself arguably the best secondrow pair in Super League. However, in 2 years time will you have a pair of fading stars taking up a huge chunk of cap money and not be in a position to replace them?
When does Danny Tickles contract expire?
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Manu and his agent know full well his importance to Hull and they will have been holding out for comparable terms to what Ellis recieved. Judging by the HDM comments and Shaun Mcrae interview he has got them.'"
Really? I'd say that only a clot or a poor troll would jump to that conclusion from the available evidence.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Hull signing Gareth Ellis was always going to make it a more expensive process persuading Manu to stay. Manu and his agent know full well his importance to Hull and they will have been holding out for comparable terms to what Ellis recieved. Judging by the HDM comments and Shaun Mcrae interview he has got them.
Short term you have got yourself arguably the best secondrow pair in Super League. [uHowever, in 2 years time will you have a pair of fading stars [/utaking up a huge chunk of cap money and not be in a position to replace them?
When does Danny Tickles contract expire?'"
I can almost smell the fear!
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| Quote ="Marfa Manu"I can almost smell the fear!
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I can smell something. But I generally can when RBA posts.
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| Turned offer down and will leave.
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| Ah feck this it changes every hour....
Not reading this thread any-more it is damaging my sanity, some-one let me know the outcome when it is official
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| Quote ="Marfa Manu"Ah feck this it changes every hour....
Not reading this thread any-more it is damaging my sanity, some-one let me know the outcome when it is official'"
People posting random things, one will be right one day
You know what they say about an infinite amount of monkeys and an infinite amount of computers
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| Fair enough.
And so we move on...
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| He was crap anyway, never rated him
takes the shine off the Ellis signing for me
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| People will try to look for positives but it's a massive loss, I would have liked to think that with the new owners and coaching team that the current players would be excited about the future of the club and want to be part of a new era. If we were to lose Moa & O'Meley on top of Manu it would take some special recruitment for us to make it to the next level.
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| Quote ="Suzie"People will try to look for positives but it's a massive loss, I would have liked to think that with the new owners and coaching team that the current players would be excited about the future of the club and want to be part of a new era. If we were to lose Moa & O'Meley on top of Manu it would take some special recruitment for us to make it to the next level.'"
I totally agree with this.
The Ellis signing was a big coup, but if we have gone balls deep on this deal, yet we lose Moa, Manu and O'Meley then the signing looks pretty poor and quite short sighted
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| Well if thats the case can't say the club didnt try and we will just have to move on.
In some ways this may well be better for us in the long run as frees up more space for areas we need to strengthen more.
Will be sorry to see him go if he has as he does offer something different but I am sure PG & SM will find a suitable replacement and improve the team regardless.
As has been said other teams have won silverware without him in their side and we have not won anything with him. Players come and go just a shame he wont be part of the success we are heading for.
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| Quote ="Suzie"People will try to look for positives but it's a massive loss, I would have liked to think that with the new owners and coaching team that the current players would be excited about the future of the club and want to be part of a new era. If we were to lose Moa & O'Meley on top of Manu it would take some special recruitment for us to make it to the next level.'"
If players don't wanna play for Hull there isn't anything you can do. Obviously the management have bent over backwards to keep him but we have Ellis coming in and a large chunk of cap now to strengthen elsewhere and plenty of time to look.
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