No it isn't, it's from the year before we broke the Wembley hoodoo and went back to back. You were unequivocal that the club was a complete mess and Pearson being in charge meant nothing would change. I think you are now conceding that was wrong because you think he has improved a lot of things. Do you still want Koukash to replace him?

That’s true about PG but AP had Radford chirping in his ear saying he could do better with the same squad.

So five years ago then? FFS get a grip woman, talk about dragging up the past! Shall i go on a post search where your up Heterington/Rules/Agars harris as i guarantee ill find one?

The point here is that you were unequivocal that Pearson could [unever[/u make any improvements, which you have now conceded was wrong. Maybe your brutal condemnation of Radford, which, after all, is the subject of this thread, is similarly over negative.

On the Hetherington point, of course I was supportive. But for the Gateshead merger and her shareholding we would have gone out of business. With no apparent alternative ownership, and a Challenge Cup and GF, perhaps that tenure wasn't so bleak. I did write to James Rule about Agar. But then again he's working wonders at Leeds.

Back on topic, I'd be surprised if Radford was replaced this year even if results continue to be mixed. The quality of coaching in SL currently isn't that great IMO. If we hired a Lam equivalent for example I think people would be underwhelmed.

Yep the only thing that really surprises me under radders in last few seasons is our ability to mentally not turn up ..ie 45 to nil at magic x2 with saints and huddo . And now we still have the mental breakdowns after 50 mins. The cats game and wakey would have been put away by a strong mental team. I thought radders would be like wane and have a no messing about culture but mental resilience has let us down, and this i find surprising from a man of radders character and stature as a coach.


I want radders to succeed and get us to GF - we know it's the target this season from all the interviews. I don't think Pearson could have backed rads better through some bad years but he must have 2nd thoughts if we are not strong top 4 at end of year with this squad investment ( and coaching salaries up!) . Its not a disaster so far as lost to 3 very strong teams but the Wakey one was concerning !!!. The stats of 9 wins in last 26 games at home is not good enough in any circumstances, but lets give the squad chance to gel - lot of new faces not quite at 100% together yet . I reckon cats , saints and wigan could be in top 4 with us. if cats keep their heads strait it could be their year with squad macca has.

[del[/delYou mention Wane and his no messing about culture, but didn't his Wigan team concede 60 points, for two seasons running, against Wakefield?

It's the nature of the beast, that is Super League now. Finishing top of the league is not the main priority these days, so some games are gonna be blow-outs. If the main aim was to finish top of the league to be the champions, you'd suddenly see teams having a lot less injuries,. Most teams in this league are inconsistent now, St Helens was a one off last season, they've already lost 2 from 5 this season.

Personally I don't give a flying fornication about other teams, we have thrown TWO significant leads away. THAT is simple truth.

We've also put, 24 and 20, unanswered points on those teams. That's also a simple truth. We had to do well enough in the first place to get those leads, for us to throw them away. But who cares when we do positive things? It's best to ignore them, It's much more satisfying to moan about the negative things.

£20 to a charity of your choice if Sky pull the plug. And £20 to a charity of mine if we get a new deal.

Absolutely Zero chance sky are pulling the plug. They don't care about quality, they care about number of eyeballs watching and although slightly down it is still realistically pretty similar to recent years when we have got sky deals

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I don’t disagree

no, it is much more satisfying to discuss ALL elements of the club and not just blow hot air up Lee's bottom. I think we are probably best agreeing to disagree about wether Lee can take us further.

We shall see what Thursday brings.

Its a fair point that all teams have blow outs when maybe a lot of youngsters come in and a lot of seniors are not 100% fit - jabbed up or not match fit. But Wigan particularly have a habit of coming back from poor early season form and nicking the GF - their record under Wane was incredible. Whereas if we suffer a bit of adversity we seem to very easily lose direction and discipline on field during games and then fall away towards the end of a season. Even in 2016 winning the cup set us on a path of self destruct regarding GF which we were all happy to live with

. Then in 2017 I was delighted we beat the mighty Wanes Wigan (a much more convincing performance than in 2016 final in my opinion) and we applied ourselves much better and got very close to GF. So yes i believe radders can do it with right squad and enough senior leadership on field to push us through tough patches in games. e.g GAZ.

But i do find myself wondering would a wane kicking mentality or an Ian watson ( considered tactician/ top man manger ) approach bring even more out of this squad. I really hope radders makes it happen this year and I hope the fans will back him all way to old trafford , but I do believe this is a pivotal season in him asserting his credibility to progress this club. i do believe rads has the integrity to be honest and step down if he feels he has gone as far as he can - he is that good a character.

COYH - if we get to GF I have committed to cycling all way from switzerland to old trafford to be there - now thats mental ( not sure mental strength or maybe just mental illness

[url=https://www.discoveradventure.com/challenges/london-to-geneva-cycle1800 km or so, be tough in summer, let alone winter[/url

Yep spot on IR80...... IF it looks likely will be at bike shop looking for largest battery powered device that can be classed as a bike

and planning a route over lets say a month before game = sept

Please Pearson get rid of this donkey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Does anyone else feel like tonight is the night? Or is that just wishful thinking on my part?

Certainly feels like it.

You can hardly blame Radford for the lack of ball control, passing errors, poor defence, getting in the road of each other hull players tonight have been shocking

Actually you can do he prepares the team, sorry it is time we got someone else now. 3 years of the same

When it happens every week you can.

I've had enough now anyway. I dont get the opportunity to go to that many games these days anyway living in Scotland, maybe once per month if I'm lucky. As long as Radford is still there I wont be going to another game. People can tell me I aren't a true fan if they want but I refuse to contribute to this shambles any longer.

Hopefully Pearson acts tonight and I wont have to stay away at all.

Yes I can

Those players have stopped playing for him.

You can’t blame injuries for this.

Absolutely awful.

Go for a drop goal sneyyyyyyyd.lol.

The comebacks on.lol.