I thought wCalderwood was ok..the dropped ball should have been taken but after that he did nothing wrong,didnt do nothing startling either...shouldnt have been in that posistion thanks to the daft penaltys we was giving away.

You said a winger should be sound,Calderwood was barring a mistake which should have ben taken...Gardner wasnt sound at all


Hows that for you?

BTW...Would you be having the same conversation if Fox had dropped it.

Iam lucky i can remember when we used to beat the Aussies with real forwards like Dennis Hartley,Mal Reilly,Jimmy Thompson and Johnnie Ward.These kids were frightened of no one,so they were half way there when it came to winning.Real muck and nettles players who would carry the ball through a minefield if you asked them to.Half backs like Millward,Hardisty and Hepworth who could tackle like forwards and directed the players round the pitch.Look at today's pack,Sinfield-ordinary at International level,Morley and Peacock too old,Wilkin more interested in promoting himself and showing the world the contents of his fridge,Gareth Ellis pretty anonymous.I am sick of hearing for the last thirty years that we are catching up,we are not and we never will unless we are prepared to bite the bullet and go back to playing with home grown players in super league.A certain Aussie player said he could not play another year in the N.R.L. and he was thinking of retiring because of the physical aspect of there game but he can play in the super league for a massive contract even though he is at the end of his career.All we are is a pension fund for Aussies who treat our game with contempt but don,t mind taking big bucks for one final pay day.

Where you said Slaters dropped ball cost the Aussies, it was in the 46th minute and we never scored from it, thats one

Ilike d Gilmore mate but think he isnt the player he was.

Just proves that if you play for Sts and Leeds doesnt make you good at international level.

Bolloxs to International rugby...my loyaltys are to Hull FC.

Telegraph match report "Only try-scorer James Roby, Mark Calderwood and James Graham emerged with any real credit." That's him in our top 3 then according to an independent journalist.

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Calderwood I thought did do ok for the rest of the game, Im not denying that but when it came down to him making a bread and butter catch he failed miserably when we needed him most.

Like I first said it's ok making a couple of tackles from square marker or a couple of scoots but you need the player to be solid in the area he plays.

Not on here, maybe on our board.

Thank God! Thought I was going mad!

I know, I was being sarcastic!

Great post, i too am old enough to remember them

I can form my own opinions and again where have I said Calderwood played c**p?

Maybe it's the bandwagon coloured glasses

wow, calderwood made one mistake in a game were his team leaked in 52 pts

jesus, who was responsible for all the other mistakes?!!

well thank god none of your lot were playin, altho we could start talkin about wilkin who was just plain old crap

We are well aware of that as you communicate them ad nauseam on here. I rate the opinion of a full time journalist over yours.



When someone suggested Calderwood was one of our best players you took issue with it, citing a "c*ck up" under the high ball as his only involvement of note in the match. Roby aside, Calderwood was one of our best players, making 17 tackles in the game which is pretty impressive for a winger. Deal with the fact that no one other than Rovers half-wits are singling out Calderwood for criticism and some are saying he was in our top 3.

I think its safe to say with Briscoe, Fox, Yeaman and Raynor involved we'd have won

we couldnt win the national anthem singing

Pretty good point there.

I noticed each and every aussie sang their anthem with pride and were visibly revved up by it. Where as out half hearted effort was as pathetic as the performance on the pitch.

No pride in the shirt and no pride in their country, it was an embarrassment.

They should've taken Thacks out there, the Karaoke king.

Saying that he'd have played better than Falseavaloo.

Cullen actually got hit the nail on the head i thought when mentioned refs and penalties.

A major problem is down to the speed of Super League as Pryce, Burrow et al all come up against unorganised defences off the back of the play the ball speed, instead of set lines which they they come across at International level.

Untill SL gets away from the 'get on a roll' school of thought we will always look devoid of ideas when we have ball in hand at International level.

How poor was he today?

Not international class,simple as.

He wouldnt even get in Samoas side, the team who he should be playing for.

2 seasons ago he was the most effective bench player in SL (albeit in a great side). Gone backwards at an alarming rate.

to me calderwood was okay, the rest was e.

Just stick Hull and Rovers in there next time

I noticed that too.

But, the Aussie anthem is about Australia, our National Anthem is about the queen.

IMO opinion, Land of Hope and Glory would be a better option for us.

we commented on that, the aussies really got together as a unit, sang there hearts out, whereas we looked as though we couldnt be d, and that was how it carried on, no pride in the shirt, disgraceful performance.