3 competitive games as a full side, what do people honestly expect?

The mind boggles it really does, new owner, new coaching and backroom staff and alot of new players, some peoples expectations are crazy it's going to take time, maybe even a season to get to the levels we want to be at. Friday was disappointing but I'm still confident we will come good.

the thing I find most disappointing is it's some of the same people that were still "giving Agar a chance" when all the world could see he was out of his depth, hypocrisy on the part of some.

It's the fact that most people said it would take time anyway and now after 1 loss, they are kicking off saying we will be scrapping for 8th etc, the term has been used alot but "Rome wasn't built in a day"
I'm still confident we will come good, most teams have an off day hopefully that was just a blip.

Wingers and centres do get the bumsrush in defence, its the hardest place to defend om the pitch and more often than not your wingers are the worst tacklers on the pitch but are usually exposed due to were the other players are. Same for defending against kicks

that why we should get the sliding defense right" we not do it"

After watching the trys, can't see how you can blame Tom for the first try as they took a risk kicked early and it paid off, all wingers defend in field early in the sets, then go out wide on the last tackle, if he had gone back early it would have left a huge gap.

The 2nd try he should have stuck with his man and trusted Yeaman to make the tackle.

If Tom does leave at the end of the season, it won't be the end of the world as it's not a massive pivotal position.

Hopefully we will have our eye on Broughton who we should have signed when he was on loan instead of keeping Todd Byrne.

In the nicest way possible you can fook right off!

Jodie & Danny Williams is the best wing combo I can remember in the 22 years I've been watching Salford. Pace to burn & Williams puts in some massive defensive hits. Besides, why would he leave a club on the up for one in terminal decline?!

Better than McAvoy and Rogers?

Yeah, definitely! McAvoy, IMO, should've done far more in his career than he actually did for someone with his size & pace. We've had a few decent wingers down the years (& more than our share of shockers

) but I reckon JB & DW (unless poached) will prove to be the best partnership for many a year.Nit always helps having a couple of half decent centres & if Moon & Gleeson can stay fit the wingers should score tries for fun. From what I've seen of us this season I genuinely believe, as an attacking force, our backline is top 6 material, we're just way too light in the forwards.

Good job you put the whistle in.Terminal decline....got more pass holders than your average home support,a chairman we now trust and a coach WHO turned you down and a director of rugby who you treated like $hit and knows far more than the total to$$er who is Simms.As for on the up...the only thing going up is your debts and the planes taking your Aussie coaches home after they realise what a balls up your club is

Come on Baldy, lighten up a little fella! I thought the 'whistle' would be a little more subtle than the 'wink'. FWIW, you've got a fair few correct points there (maybe put with a little too much hostility tho

). Generally speaking our club has been a laughing stock for as long as I can remember. Our crowds are poor as we're not a rugby league hotbed like Wigan, Hull etc and we've done well to stay at the top table of RL for so long with all the obstacles we've faced as a club. If we're going to mock Salford for their perceived underachievement surely FC should be ridiculed for their lack of success over the past 30 years (a couple of CC's apart)? Oh & on the Simms issue, again you're probably correct, however, there's also a portly moustachioed fella currently on your payroll who almost destroyed our club over his 4 years in charge. One final point I'd like to make is that, from reading your forum the last few days, it seems like a large portion of your fanbase have massive delusions of grandeur! For all your strengths as a club (attendances, stadium etc) you're way below bracketing yourselves with the likes of Wigan, Saints & Leeds. Top 6 aspirations yes but don't get ahead of yourselves & give it the big 'i am'. BTW, I've nothing against Hull FC but think there's some unjustified arrogance being shown by some of your fans. Anyways, good luck for the season & hopefully we'll prove Friday wasn't a fluke & run you close up at the KC.

Wow.

By the way, if this thread is staying here, can someone change the title? It upsets me every time I see it.

Think the defence for Salfords third was the worst of the lot. Harsh on Briscoe for the other 2.

Thought Mckinnon and Seymour took theres well though

Done. I take it that was what was upsetting you

Yes. Yes it was. I am forever in your debt.

Lets be honest here Briscoe has always been suspect in defence but that does not make him a poor player but he has never been a stopper ever. apart from one tackle or so that stands out.. I dont know the kid but have been to a few of the player / fans things and with my young son stood for the usual autographs etc and have seen a shift in his manner and aproachability that is certain... someone said on a different thread maybe he is starting to believe his own hype which may well be true...
out of the two sharpe has been by far the better winger so far and Briscoe for an international needs a rocket up his harris hole as i see it because we havent had anywhere near value for money from him yet this season or friendlies IMO

we would of scored 2 more tries on friday imo if yeamo had shifted the ball to briscoe 2 breaks were he went on his own wen he had the support brsicoe is not the problem at all he needs the ball to score tries cant do it himself

we did score after the next couple of plays after the yeaman break, so we wouldn't have got 1 you claimed we would've

we scored wen we was 10 down!!!
when it was 0-0 we had atleast 2 chances on that side were if he had passed we may have scored
it isnt a point anyone can argue with anyway its simple if yeamo passes more instead of going himself we would score more briscoe is 1 of the best finishers in the game needs the ball to do that though!!

PG spoke about trust in defence and Briscoe for me has been guilty of a lack of trust in yeaman which has left his wing wide open on a few occasions already this season.

thats very true his defense has been very suspect which is unusual tbh but no one can doubt his attacking ability and every1 knows yeamo should pass it alot more and we would go in alot more see it every week we have a man over and he tries driving it in it gets really frustrating for the fans i wonder how briscoe feels

It's interesting how a person's viewpoint affects their opinion on passages of play isn't it? There's been some criticism of Briscoe on here for his part in a couple of tries, whereas the Salford fans will be pleased with the way they made the space for them, particularly the first. Conversely, the McKinnon try looks well finished to us, but if it was the other way around I'd be pretty disappointed to see Sharp or Briscoe rounded so easily from the position in which he received the ball.

Briscoe is brilliant in attack and at times a liability in defence.