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| Quote ="Basher"
If I sell my house and move to a bigger one because I need more room, am I being disloyal to my former neighboursStupid and totally not relevant'"
Why is it?
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| Quote ="Standee"Why is it?'" I wont get into one of your 'you are right arguments' but it is not- we are talking about a sportsman who has run his contract through and wishes to move on. Houses it aint and being loyal to a neighbour were did that come from.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Nice post.
Only problem is, I'm not, or ever have been a Tom Briscoe 'hater'
HTH.'"
Yes it was rather eloquent wasn't it.
However you say you're not a TB hater yet your posts in this thread all back up the others that say he is disloyal if he were to leave the club whom he works for to go work for someone else.
You've said what you said in your previous post but just because adding 10,000 fans whom follow ALL of the club (not just one tiny bit of it) in no way shape or form justifies the 'disloyal' tag that you've backed up. So either you've misunderstood what being called disloyal for no justfiable reason actually means and the impact that can have on another human being or you dislike Tom personally..which is it?
I could ask the same to the others on here whom have called him disloyal (who have now shut up because they are wrong) so could be awfully sweet and pass the same question onto them as well for me if you don't mind....
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| Quote ="Rock God X"As we don't know how much he's being paid or how much he's been offered by our rivals, it's impossible to say whether he'd get more elsewhere. But if he did go for more money, could you blame him?
If he moved to someone like Salford, perhaps, but if he moved to, say, Leeds, he [iwould[/i have a better chance of winning trophies. That's not a slap in the face to anyone, it's just a fact. We don't know how long it will take for us to be regularly challenging amongst the game's elite, and we have no guarantees it will happen at all. I believe it will happen under Pearson and Gentle, but Leeds will probably win something else well before we do.'"
That's your belief, but I think personally Tom doesn't have to make that call at 23. You can understand Manu last year, at 32 moving on for that reason. But at 23 I think it's too young to be a valid reason.
Money is a strange reason, I doubt anybody could offer him a significant enough amount more for him to choose a 'Salford'.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Yes it was rather eloquent wasn't it.
However you say you're not a TB hater yet your posts in this thread all back up the others that say he is disloyal if he were to leave the club whom he works for to go work for someone else.
You've said what you said in your previous post but just because adding 10,000 fans whom follow ALL of the club (not just one tiny bit of it) in no way shape or form justifies the 'disloyal' tag that you've backed up. So either you've misunderstood what being called disloyal for no justfiable reason actually means and the impact that can have on another human being or you dislike Tom personally..which is it?
I could ask the same to the others on here whom have called him disloyal (who have now shut up because they are wrong) so could be awfully sweet and pass the same question onto them as well for me if you don't mind....'"
Who's called him disloyal? And when did I back them up? Stop talking out your a**e pal, I've never said any such thing and those that have done will have their reasons. Nobody's right or wrong as no one fully knows Toms reason's.
The only thing I've ever said is that I could understand any fans resentment towards him. Understanding them feelings and me actually having them are two completely different things.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"That's your belief, but I think personally Tom doesn't have to make that call at 23. You can understand Manu last year, at 32 moving on for that reason. But at 23 I think it's too young to be a valid reason.'"
He doesn't 'have' to make that call at 23, but he may feel that he wants to. That's for him to decide and it doesn't make him less of a person if he decides to move on.
Quote Money is a strange reason, I doubt anybody could offer him a significant enough amount more for him to choose a 'Salford'.'"
Depends what he's on here and how he would fit into another team's cap structure. Salford's new owner has promised to break the salary cap anyway, so he can earn what he likes there.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Money is a strange reason, I doubt anybody could offer him a significant enough amount more for him to choose a 'Salford'.'"
That comment alludes to how daft you are, we all go to work for money, if we won a significant amount on the lottery we (if we are honest and of sound mind) would bin work.
Same job, more pay = YES PLEASE, every day of every week, and twice on Sunday!
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| Quote ="Standee"That comment alludes to how daft you are, we all go to work for money, if we won a significant amount on the lottery we (if we are honest and of sound mind) would bin work.
Same job, more pay = YES PLEASE, every day of every week, and twice on Sunday!'" So you think that money is the main reason for a rugby player to move clubs? Maybe you should cast your mind back to what Kevin Sinfield said after winning the GF a few years back.
If I'm daft, you're border line idiotic. You seem completely unable to differentiate between a regular person earning 20-30k per year and a preofessional sports person earning 100k+.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"He doesn't 'have' to make that call at 23, but he may feel that he wants to. That's for him to decide and it doesn't make him less of a person if he decides to move on.
Depends what he's on here and how he would fit into another team's cap structure. Salford's new owner has promised to break the salary cap anyway, so he can earn what he likes there.'"
It doesn't make him less of a person, I agree. Although being the big Tom Briscoe Hater that I am I obviously think it does!
I can though, understand why people can resent his choice, that's all.
Koukash is funny, pure comedy gold.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"So you think that money is the main reason for a rugby player to move clubs? Maybe you should cast your mind back to what Kevin Sinfield said after winning the GF a few years back.
If I'm daft, you're border line idiotic. You seem completely unable to differentiate between a regular person earning 20-30k per year and a preofessional sports person earning 100k+.'"
sigh, I'll leave it here, you don't get it, that's fine, enjoy your top end 30k job.
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| Quote ="Standee"maybe because I'm much nearer the latter than the former?'"
Yeah, that's it.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"icon_lol.gif
Yeah, that's it.'"
sorry, I forgot, you know me and what I earn......clearly.
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| Quote ="Standee"sorry, I forgot, you know me and what I earn......clearly.'"
Smithers, release the hounds.
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| Anyone else think Seb is Standee's love child?
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| Anyone fancy a pint?
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| Quote ="Standee"sigh, I'll leave it here, you don't get it, that's fine, enjoy your top end 30k job.'"
I cant be doing with people who tell us they earn 20k + me I am happy to say I earn 15 + cos I am not boasting like the Standee's . O but by the way I have a House worth £220 K
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| why do peoples earning ever crop up in forum squbbles? strange how everyone on a forum are high rollers innit? theres never just some bloke that works in a factory or something like that lol
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| oh hang on.... did that just happen? lol i take it back
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Anyone fancy a pint?'"
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| Players come and go - always have done and always will. Fans get attached to players then feel a tad aggrieved when it turns out that the player doesn't have the same undying allegiance to the cause as themselves. If Tom goes elsewhere in SL I will be disappointed that he doesn't see the near-mid term potential of the club to gain honours that many others do (fans and staff alike). It's his livelihood and his choice at the end of the day. He's an international class winger and therefore by definition bound to be missed. It would be better for the club if he stayed however it wont dent the club's ambition should he decide to.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"Just as an afterthought, I really hope Tom doesn't read this forum. If he did, he would realise the low esteem in which he is held by certain individuals and will think that leaving is the best thing he can do.'"
Tom, if you're reading this then please stay with us 
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Players come and go - always have done and always will. Fans get attached to players then feel a tad aggrieved when it turns out that the player doesn't have the same undying allegiance to the cause as themselves. If Tom goes elsewhere in SL I will be disappointed that he doesn't see the near-mid term potential of the club to gain honours that many others do (fans and staff alike). It's his livelihood and his choice at the end of the day. He's an international class winger and therefore by definition bound to be missed. It would be better for the club if he stayed however it wont dent the club's ambition should he decide to.'"
 Well done Staffs. This sums it up for me.
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| Do we think he has made his mind up yet where he will be next season?
It's the constant waiting allowing rumours to surface which causes the problems and leads to bad feeling.
He said he would let the club know before the start of the season (oz?) but nothing has been said as far as i know.
Just say something to keep the fans informed and confirm or deny the rumours.
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| Quote ="davey37"Do we think he has made his mind up yet where he will be next season?
It's the constant waiting allowing rumours to surface which causes the problems and leads to bad feeling.
He said he would let the club know before the start of the season (oz?) but nothing has been said as far as i know.
Just say something to keep the fans informed and confirm or deny the rumours.'"
Wilf said in this week's Dentists Diary that his sources say Tom's meeting his agent this week to discuss the offers he has and decide where he's going next season. Those same sources say that Tom won't be staying with us.
My theory is that at the start of the NRL season there were no offers on the table for Tom hence why nothing has been said. He's since either been waiting for a NRL club to come in with an offer or (and this one is more likely given the rumours) he's been sounding out other SL clubs and Union clubs.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Anyone fancy a pint?'"
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