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| Quote ="HFC Boy"We are missing the go forward of Ellis, Watts and Fonua.
Let’s hope Bureta can start staying on the pitch a bit longer . That might help things !'"
I know Fonua played centre in 2016 but it's worth pointing out that he had a similarly slow start to his Hull career. He only played twice in the first eight rounds and had scored just two tries before Magic Weekend. I'm not expecting Faraimo to make the Dream Team but hopefully he can kick on now and make a real impact.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I think the plan was to bring Connor on and give Griffin a stint in the 2nd row but talanoas injury put paid to that. Problem with Abdul on the bench is he doesn't do the shift of a middle player'"
That was my point saying lightweight having Connor and Abdull on the bench.Surely if Masi was fit he should have been on the bench in place of Abdull.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Bumpy in talking Shiite shocker'"
Comedy gold peggy, you're the one talking out your arris saying the club have spent £100k on an unproven junior player hence we aren't getting anyone
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Comedy gold peggy, you're the one talking out your arris saying the club have spent £100k on an unproven junior player hence we aren't getting anyone
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There is literally no one in the world who agrees with the Shiite you post on here
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| We had a top forward, sold him to Castleford.
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| Quote ="HFC Boy"We had a top forward, sold him to Castleford.'"
But surely you understand that it had to be done?
Short term pain and all that, but the right thing to do for the future of the club.
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| Quote ="HFC Boy"We had a top forward, sold him to Castleford.'"
In the same way that we offloaded Lineham and Westerman. We don't need disruptive elements in the club.
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| watts is a top forward, but sometimes you gotta do the right thing for the team, wish it could have turned out different but there you go
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| Quote ="hull2524"watts is a top forward, but sometimes you gotta do the right thing for the team, wish it could have turned out different but there you go'"
But Watts said he never had any off field problems
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"But Watts said he never had any off field problems'"
"it was nothing to do with me, officer"
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| Quote ="Isaiah"But surely you understand that it had to be done?
Short term pain and all that, but the right thing to do for the future of the club.'"
None of us actually knows what happened so we don't know if, in our own opinion, that he had to go. He could have been here for another 5 or 6 years easily at the peak of his game and now were going to miss that but don't know if it was really justified or not.
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| if any player keeps overstepping the mark hes gotta go no matter who he is, yes none of us know all the facts but you gotta think it wasn't for turning up 5 min late for training, anyway hes gone now so time to move on,
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| For me Griffin is not a centre and could move to 2nd row as long as he improves his defence to the highest standard.
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"For me Griffin is not a centre and could move to 2nd row as long as he improves his defence to the highest standard.'"
But surely that would of happened in his career by now , if he wanted to and coaches thought 2nd row was his position , he'd be playing 2nd row . The players people mention moving from centre to second row , was very young when centre and had not fully developed , and was probably very clear to coaching staff that they would develop into a second rower . Griffins been the size he his for a long time and if 2nd row was going to be his preferred position, it would of been done by now
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| Quote ="hull2524"if any player keeps overstepping the mark hes gotta go no matter who he is, yes none of us know all the facts but you gotta think it wasn't for turning up 5 min late for training, anyway hes gone now so time to move on,'"
I honestly believe it was purely down to the sending off against Warrington, Radford publicly hammered him, I think it was down to that, and that alone
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| Quote ="Tinkerman23"I honestly believe it was purely down to the sending off against Warrington, Radford publicly hammered him, I think it was down to that, and that alone'"
Disagree. That would have been the final straw. It would have been a culmination of transgressions. The gripe I have is it would have been wiser to sell him at the end of the season like he did with Westerman and Lineham to avoid disruption.
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"Disagree. That would have been the final straw. It would have been a culmination of transgressions. The gripe I have is it would have been wiser to sell him at the end of the season like he did with Westerman and Lineham to avoid disruption.'"
Like what though? Forget all the supposedly "in the know" people. As watts seemed disruptive etc over the past 2 seasons, on or off the field , yeh he's had a few red cards , but some of them very harsh , and we all love a hard hitting aggressive front rower
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| Quote ="Tinkerman23"But surely that would of happened in his career by now , if he wanted to and coaches thought 2nd row was his position , he'd be playing 2nd row . The players people mention moving from centre to second row , was very young when centre and had not fully developed , and was probably very clear to coaching staff that they would develop into a second rower . Griffins been the size he his for a long time and if 2nd row was going to be his preferred position, it would of been done by now'"
Thompson came to us as a utility back from Castleford mostly in the centres IIRC and was eventually playing in the middle most of the time which I thought he did very well all things considered. Rich Whiting another example, even Kirk Yeaman was being touted by some on here to play second row at the back end of his career
It's never too late if the player can apply themselves, the coach is able to coach them as to what they are supposed to be doing and for me most importantly they have the heart to get stuck in with the big boys.
If it moves, smash it, when attacking out wide make the defenders fear you and hurt them as much as possible, it's not easy to go all out into contact knowing you're not the big guy, knowing that it will hurt but you absolutely want to dominate your opponent mentally as well as physically.
Houghton's tackle on Sam Moa last year was a classic example, Brad Fash at 97kg is utterly fearless and also in that mould, and despite sometimes getting smashed he comes back for more, I really like the cut of his jib.
Could Griffin do similar, who knows but you can't discount it just because a player has never played in that position before.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Thompson came to us as a utility back from Castleford mostly in the centres IIRC and was eventually playing in the middle most of the time which I thought he did very well all things considered. Rich Whiting another example, even Kirk Yeaman was being touted by some on here to play second row at the back end of his career
It's never too late if the player can apply themselves, the coach is able to coach them as to what they are supposed to be doing and for me most importantly they have the heart to get stuck in with the big boys.
If it moves, smash it, when attacking out wide make the defenders fear you and hurt them as much as possible, it's not easy to go all out into contact knowing you're not the big guy, knowing that it will hurt but you absolutely want to dominate your opponent mentally as well as physically.
Houghton's tackle on Sam Moa last year was a classic example, Brad Fash at 97kg is utterly fearless and also in that mould, and despite sometimes getting smashed he comes back for more, I really like the cut of his jib.
Could Griffin do similar, who knows but you can't discount it just because a player has never played in that position before.'"
I wouldn't discount it, and he I think he would probably do a job. But just don't think it's the plan for hull going forward , otherwise he'd be playing there now, and Connor playing centre , would make sense especially with the injuries, but Radford chose to play Connor from the bench .
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| The Merry-go-round is eternal. Rightly or Wrongly Watts has gone. Nothing said on here will bring him back.
Isn't it just best we put him down to History ? as a really good player who made history with us ? But thats it !! Over and Out.
I think we have to focus on those who are wearing our shirt and save our comments for them.
Radders wants to give his present props a chance, they're having it tough at the mo but he believes they'll come good and for sure he'll be measured by that decision at the end of the season.
If he needs to bolster things up I'm sure he will.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"None of us actually knows what happened so we don't know if, in our own opinion, that he had to go. He could have been here for another 5 or 6 years easily at the peak of his game and now were going to miss that but don't know if it was really justified or not.'"
I do.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"I do.'"
I had heard that he called radford a turd and accused him of hiding behind the gap in his teeth but you'd have to be a right idiot to do that so don't believe it myself
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| Given Radford's inability to control himself as a player and his pathetic slap on Bailey that wouldn't knock the skin off a rice pudding and cost us a top 4 play-off spot it's all a bit rich tbh.
We need a player of standing and it's looking like that won't happen until next year now. Let's hope we don't get any/many more injuries.
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| I just wish we had waited until we had a replacement lined up, even if it was the end of season.
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| Quote ="Dave K."I just wish we had waited until we had a replacement lined up, even if it was the end of season.'"
Agreed Dave
When it came down to it, two people fell out, split up but now probably have regrets as it was the wrong decision but now its too late. Im sure weve all been there in our personal life but this is sport and business and imo both have been idiots with only one result - FC as a whole/club/fans are worse off
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