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| Quote ="Panther"We have to be ruthless if we have aspirations of challenging the top 4....we should ger rid. I like Washy as he always tries hard whatever position he is asked to play....for me he lacks that speed of thought/football brain...Westerman has this...Washy doesn't.'"
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| Quote ="Panther"We have to be ruthless if we have aspirations of challenging the top 4....we should ger rid. I like Washy as he always tries hard whatever position he is asked to play....for me he lacks that speed of thought/football brain...Westerman has this...Washy doesn't.'"
That is ruthless. You could be the RLFans version of Ghengis Khan with that level of ruthlessness.
To be honest, whether Washy stays or goes, I'm not that bothered. If he stays, we have a cheap, homegrown squad player, who can cover the backrow. If he goes, he's easily replaceable, perhaps from the U20's.
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| This is a persons livelihood your discussing on here what gives you all the right to talk about cutting his wages i'm sure you would like your earnings to be discussed on a forum
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| Quote ="Chris28"We'll need to find a good named replacement if he does go - what will replace "Where's Washy?" in the programme if he leaves?'"
Where's Westy?, or the after-watershed Where's Willie?
I don't think that I would keep Washbrook, tbh. The only position that I would play him is Loose Forward and we already have Westerman who is far far far superior to him. If Westerman isn't fit, Tickle would move there.
I also wouldn't like him as being our interchange backrower. A backrow of Manu, Tickle, Westerman, Washbrook is weaker that what we have this season (Manu, Tickle, Fitzgibbon, Westerman) and so isn't the direction that we need to be going in.
Whilst he would be adequate cover for if any of our first choice 4 became unavailable, he would presumably have too large a salary for this role.
I don't see him progressing much as a player, although he isn't bad, so I would rather this cover opportunity be given to one of the younger players - Cunningham or Green for example.
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| Quote ="hullygully"This is a persons livelihood your discussing on here what gives you all the right to talk about cutting his wages i'm sure you would like your earnings to be discussed on a forum[/quo
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I think you will probably find that quite a few of us on here have had our wages pensions expenses etc discussed on much larger forums than this one and certainly by supposedly more important people.
As for Washy well for me its a difficult one. He is a hardened pro who has as far as I know been a model pro whilst at the club. He is solid if unspectacular and generally speaking his step (being his only asset) is well marshalled by other teams. But every team even Wire has its billy basic players just some have far more than others. I would in an ideal situation get rid but....... The alternatives are few and far between so I can see him being retained.
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| Quote ="ChrisH"Which SL clubs would sign Washbrook if he was available? Wigan , Wire , Sts , Leeds , Catalan? Don't think so. I'd rather give a youngster a chance than have him block any chance of their development.'"
Agree with this.
Can't remember the last time Washbrook had a stand out game. Bradford at home in the playoffs in 2006?
He's not lived up to his early promise and I think it's time for him to move on.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I like Washy but the only position I would use him is loose forward and we already have Westerman for that position'" You mean Tickle
I feel sorry for Washy in all honesty as he was replaced by a modern day legend of the game and unsuccessfully spent a full pre season this year training to become a hooker.
Peter Sharp has massive hopes for him even highlighting him as a future captain of the club however I don't see a future for him but he most defiantly is a Super League standard player.
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"
I feel sorry for Washy in all honesty as he was replaced by a modern day legend of the game '"
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| Washbrook is another example of a young player with potential wasted by this club. Moulded into the robotic and dull workman like-player that has lots of graft but no skill (hence why we do alright defensively and are awful in attack!).
Hope Pearson can sort out the mess that is our coaching systems.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Washbrook is another example of a young player with potential wasted by this club. Moulded into the robotic and dull workman like-player that has lots of graft but no skill (hence why we do alright defensively and are awful in attack!).
Hope Pearson can sort out the mess that is our coaching systems.'"
Sadly very true.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Washbrook is another example of a young player with potential wasted by this club. Moulded into the robotic and dull workman like-player that has lots of graft but no skill (hence why we do alright defensively and are awful in attack!).
Hope Pearson can sort out the mess that is our coaching systems.'"
Washbrook, if he wasn't born in Hull we wouldn't think twice about speaking the truth about him, he's a championship player at best.
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"You mean Tickle
I feel sorry for Washy in all honesty as he was replaced by a modern day legend of the game and unsuccessfully spent a full pre season this year training to become a hooker.
Peter Sharp has massive hopes for him even highlighting him as a future captain of the club however I don't see a future for him but he most defiantly is a Super League standard player.'"
Pah! Not having that argument again
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"
I feel sorry for Washy in all honesty as he was replaced by a modern day legend of the game and unsuccessfully spent a full pre season this year training to become a hooker.
Peter Sharp has massive hopes for him even highlighting him as a future captain of the club however I don't see a future for him but he most defiantly is a Super League standard player.'"
Agree 100%.
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| Washy has been unlucky with the coach we have had in charge for the last few years. The coach preferred to play with forwards at 13 instead and Washy has been left with having to play cameo roles at halfback and hooker both of which are not his position. When he has been fortunate to play loose man he has played well. However with Westerman hopefully playing his preferred position under a new coach next season and with decent cover with Whiting I think Washy could well be looking for a new club for next season.
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| Quote ="hullbg"Washy has been unlucky with the coach we have had in charge for the last few years. The coach preferred to play with forwards at 13 instead and Washy has been left with having to play cameo roles at halfback and hooker both of which are not his position. When he has been fortunate to play loose man he has played well. However with Westerman hopefully playing his preferred position under a new coach next season and with decent cover with Whiting I think Washy could well be looking for a new club for next season.'"
Atleast if he doesn't get re-signed, he knows that one-eyed moron East of the river will throw a contract at him.
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| Quote ="GEvans75"Washbrook, if he wasn't born in Hull we wouldn't think twice about speaking the truth about him, he's a championship player at best.'"
Absolutely spot on!
If he was playing for another club would we want to sign him?
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"YEAH, HE ALSO THOUGHT MOTU TONY WAS A BETTER OPTION AT FULL BACK THAN BRISCOE.!!!
'" You mean Motu Tony who was pivotal from fullback and putting in performances Briscoe could only dream of when we went on that massive winning streak leading to a grand final appearance.
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"You mean Motu Tony who was pivotal from fullback and putting in performances Briscoe could only dream of when we went on that massive winning streak leading to a grand final appearance.'"
Leave it
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| Had some quality out of him '06, '07 and '08 but then we started to play a prop type player at 13 and has seen him fall away. Not a stand off or hooker. If we use him as back row cover then keep, if Agar is thinking of any other position then goodbye!
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| Quote ="Diogenes"Absolutely spot on!
If he was playing for another club would we want to sign him?'"
If he was playing fir another club then the chances are he'd have reached his potential by now.
Saints were apparently sniffing round him at the end of 2006 and 2007.
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