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| The style of play is not going to change for the next 2 years at least. Agar seems to play safety first rugby regardless of the score or occasion. The players look like they are restricted to me and off the cuff stuff is something that rarely happens.
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| Quote ="jehull"At this stage of the season I don't think we will be looking for a replacement. Personally I think that the creative players (berro, washy and horney) need to be given more freedom and our style of play needs to be changed. This season we have just focussed on getting to the kick with one man rugby and its too boring to watch![u I know a lot of players want Agar out[/u and I agree why they want him out. To be honest I can't believe we are 4th in the league with the rugby we have played. I have only seen a couple of entertaining games this season!'"
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| To be fair though Jake i haven't heard any rumours about player unrest at Hull. I find it strange as well because it is obvious something is really wrong somewhere.
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| Quote ="hullbg"To be fair though Jake i haven't heard any rumours about player unrest at Hull. I find it strange as well because it is obvious something is really wrong somewhere.'"
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| Quote ="hullbg"To be fair though Jake i haven't heard any rumours about player unrest at Hull. I find it strange as well because it is obvious something is really wrong somewhere.'"
Why would there be any unrest. From what I've seen they do what they want and nothing ever happens (apart from tansey obviously )
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| I don't understand why, as a club, we seem to pay big bucks for forwards and develop our own youngsters for the backs? We seem to be doing pretty well in developing forwards over the last few years, and have got some more coming through, but they just can't get in the team. Yet, our backs don't seem to have much flair, and our half-backs seem to have poor (or repetitive) decision-making skills (a sort of country-wide problem in development anyway!).
We need three half-backs. Two on the pitch, and one on the bench as utility. The third one can be a young product, but he needs to have the potential to be a good half-back as well as decent at filling in in other positions (sounds like Whiting, but will never be played at HB for some reason). We need two wingers with pace. We need two strong running centres. And we need a FB with less brain explosions.
TBH, we aren't too far off that as it is. Tansey still has time to develop his game at FB, just needs to work on his defensive decisions. Turner's looking good at centre, but think we need an international class centre to help him develop into a better player. We also need a class winger with pace to burn and less injuries to replace Calderwood. We should have some room next year with the loss off both Raynor and probably Calderwood to get two decent three-quarters.
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"can they afford him??'"
Obviously can, dont know how though, they wouldnt be talking to a player and publishing that they really want him if they dont have the money, but who knows.
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| Quote ="Digby"we need a creative 7 who organises - that's not Finch. Having said that. He is better (considerably) then any options we have at 6'"
I think you will find your 6 and 7's are organisers on the paddock, both play makers, finch is playing very well for melbourne at the minute and hes far better than richard horne who for me isnt good enough if you want to climb for honours. as for longy hes under contract till next year id start to bring a youngster through who could replace long when he is injured. but obviously we have a quota problem.
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| Quote ="Danny Oglesby"Obviously can, dont know how though, they wouldnt be talking to a player and publishing that they really want him if they dont have the money, but who knows.'"
heard he was wanting knocking on £250k a year!!!!!!!!! a bit excessive
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"heard he was wanting knocking on £250k a year!!!!!!!!! a bit excessive
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It's the law of supply and demand mate. He can pretty much name his price
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"It's the law of supply and demand mate. He can pretty much name his price'"
No he can't, anyone who wants to sign him will have a maximum offer, if he doesn't accept it he'll be without a job
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"No he can't, anyone who wants to sign him will have a maximum offer, if he doesn't accept it he'll be without a job'"
No, he'll play everyone off against each other until he realises his maximum market value. It's what players and their agents do
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"No, he'll play everyone off against each other until he realises his maximum market value. It's what players and their agents do'"
So he can't name his price then
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"So he can't name his price then'"
Pretty much, as I said
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"heard he was wanting knocking on £250k a year!!!!!!!!! a bit excessive
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He really wants to play in england and will be without a club so i cant see clubs paying that, He will get a good wack but not that much, Seems to me if rovers are in big talks with finch then that should show he isnt going to get that much (250k) because i totally dont believe rovers can afford that, if im right in hearing clintons money will be going up
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| Quote ="Danny Oglesby"He really wants to play in england and will be without a club so i cant see clubs paying that, He will get a good wack but not that much, Seems to me if rovers are in big talks with finch then that should show he isnt going to get that much (250k) because i totally dont believe rovers can afford that, if im right in hearing clintons money will be going up'"
A player of his standing could easily get a gig in the NRL on a fair chunk
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"A player of his standing could easily get a gig in the NRL on a fair chunk'"
Who has the space?
Cronulla replacing Barrett maybe but would he go there?
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| and the nrl salary cap is rising nxt year aswell by 300k i think
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"A player of his standing could easily get a gig in the NRL on a fair chunk'"
probably but i dont think he would get the money as much as he would here, the NRL arnt hardly strapped for half backs at the minute either.
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| Quote ="Danny Oglesby"
but rovers are supposed to be strapped for cash
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"
Yeah they are but they will offload the likes of mills etc at the end of the year plus cooky gone, there obviously going to use the money from there, but no body really knows what they can afford, people on here say what they think not what they know. clinton come over on a cheaper yr and the next 2 years his wage bumpers up quite alot that was a way of getting him here so who knows if they would do the same with finch
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| Quote ="Danny Oglesby"
plus a number of players will have been given improved deals-not by alot,but more money.
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"
how do you know that, galea was offered one more year, how do you know they didnt drop his salary, mills was on a good screw and certainly cookie was so there is some money freed up.
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| Quote ="Danny Oglesby"
one of the lower earners(mills)
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