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| Quote ="ccs".... especially if he ignores the salary cap, which has been widely reported in the "press".
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Interesting article about Koukash in today's Private Eye, suggesting that some of his other businesses have been less successful than he wants Salford to be, collapsing and owing money right left and centre, as well as being director of a company being threatened with being struck off for not filing any accounts since 2011...
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| They were Companies which had to be wound up due to conflicting future plans of the shareholders.
He currently runs 100+ Racehorses @ £1500 a month Training Fees - Many with Richard Fahey in N Yorks and the Trainers dont let monthly bills go unpaid!
His wealth is via his own business which strategically is not a Limited Company. Typical Private Eye not doing their homework.
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| Quote ="Faithful One"Well exactly..
He was an idiot to come out and say that. Won't happen though. He could sell the dream though, I would love to be part of transforming the worst team in the league to one of the best.'"
So is AP an idiot for his statement when he took over "we'll fully utilise every part of the salary cap" he didnt just mean spent up to the £1.65 limit
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"So is AP an idiot for his statement when he took over "we'll fully utilise every part of the salary cap" he didnt just mean spent up to the £1.65 limit'"
Yes. Makes a mockery of the whole system.
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| Quote ="Faithful One"Yes. Makes a mockery of the whole system.'" Some clubs legally spend way over £1.65. Some at near £2mill
Id imagine we are now over the £1.65m as we have 2 or 3 players claiming the reduced contracts after testimonials
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"Some clubs legally spend way over £1.65. Some at near £2mill
Id imagine we are now over the £1.65m as we have 2 or 3 players claiming the reduced contracts after testimonials'"
Which is completely different to paying players wives £50,000, as Mr Koukash stated.
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| If Tom is going then i'd drop him and play Crookes now, might aswell get Crookes integrated into the side.
I'd be disappointed if he went to another SL club.
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| If it comes out in media he's joining another Super League club, he won't be a popular figure amongst the fans.
I tbh don't blame them. Yes he's a very good player but he publicly stated he wanted to challenge in NRL and if not he'd stay with us.
Were building to a great future and it's showing signs already, why is that challenge good enough for an experienced player in Ellis and not Briscoe??
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| Quote ="PAUL M"If Tom is going then i'd drop him and play Crookes now, might aswell get Crookes integrated into the side.
I'd be disappointed if he went to another SL club.'"
That's a bit silly and not like you Paul, you should play your best team, Briscoe will be honoring his contract with Hull and never done anything other than put 100% in every game he has played for Hull.
We didn't drop Moa and Manu last year and you wouldn't drop O Meley now either.
We have much more chance of being successful in the cup and SL with Briscoe in our side so he plays unless his form drops.
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| The salary cap rules are quite easy to find for those who are struggling.
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| Quote ="Dave K."That's a bit silly and not like you Paul, you should play your best team, Briscoe will be honoring his contract with Hull and never done anything other than put 100% in every game he has played for Hull.
We didn't drop Moa and Manu last year and you wouldn't drop O Meley now either.
We have much more chance of being successful in the cup and SL with Briscoe in our side so he plays unless his form drops.'"
Not silly at all. Crookes has hardly played so why wait until next year to bed him in and cement a relationship with his winger? He might makes improvements in his game this year. If not we might need another winger. It's not petty towards Tom it's about what is best for the club/team.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Not silly at all. Crookes has hardly played so why wait until next year to bed him in and cement a relationship with his winger? He might makes improvements in his game this year. If not we might need another winger. It's not petty towards Tom it's about what is best for the club/team.'"
Best for the team is playing your best team, I think we have an outside change of doing well this year (mainly in the cup). On your rational we should drop O Meley and play Bowden for the rest of the year.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"If Tom is going then i'd drop him and play Crookes now, might aswell get Crookes integrated into the side.
I'd be disappointed if he went to another SL club.'"
Quite the opposite,
Crookes should not pull on a shirt untill he gets cleared (IF)
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| Innocent till proven guilty.
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| Why O'Meley he is retiring not leaving for another club, but I would still play Briscoe myself.
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| At the end of the day, I would keep playing Briscoe - he is one of our best players and could be the difference in the Quarters/Semi/Final of the cup as he can do something special.
He might not even want to leave, it stated in the paper he is meeting with his agent next week to discuss things, so his agent might come back with 2 or 3 deals from other clubs - and Briscoe might think it best to stay
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| Quote ="PAUL M"If Tom is going then i'd drop him and play Crookes now, might aswell get Crookes integrated into the side.'"
Thats probably one of the most stupid posts ive read on here for a long while.
As long as Briscoe shows commitment and earns the right to play with form, then he plays for me.
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| Quote ="Hutchie"Thats probably one of the most stupid posts ive read on here for a long while.
As long as Briscoe shows commitment and earns the right to play with form, then he plays for me.'"
I'll second that. Tom is an international and to take him out of the team would be bloo*y stupid.
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| Quote ="Hutchie"As long as Briscoe shows commitment and earns the right to play with form, then he plays for me.'"
This. If Tom's form drops and/or he shows signs that he can't be bothered with us any more then that is the time to talk about dropping him. As it should be with all players. We seem to have enough depth in most areas now that no player can expect a place automatically in the 17.
Until such a scenario occurs then Tom plays in my eyes.
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| SO if every team drops the players who are out of contract at the end of the season there would be bedlam,plus whats the point of giving them a 2 year contract when the last year there wouldnt play,so is miller only going to play for us next year then be dropped,
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| Quote ="AirlieBird82"This. If Tom's form drops and/or he shows signs that he can't be bothered with us any more then that is the time to talk about dropping him. As it should be with all players. We seem to have enough depth in most areas now that no player can expect a place automatically in the 17.
Until such a scenario occurs then Tom plays in my eyes.'"
I think Bricoe will be giving 100% in all game's for us this year ... It is a World cup year remember .
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| Quote ="hull2524"SO if every team drops the players who are out of contract at the end of the season there would be bedlam,plus whats the point of giving them a 2 year contract when the last year there wouldnt play,so is miller only going to play for us next year then be dropped,'"
Paul isn't talking about "dropping every player who is out of contract" though is he. He is talking about what's best for the squad for the future. We have a perfectly good winger in Crookes (who BTW hasn't been found guilty of anything at all) who has looked potentially very good with limited opportunities.
If Briscoe is going to leave for another SL club after all that he has said, it's a kick in the teeth to the club and the fans. I would certainly agree with Paul and give Crookes a real chance on the wing. It would gives us a much better idea of what is needed for next season and, let's face it, Crookes could be an improvement on what Briscoe has done this season so far.
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| Quote ="B0NES"I think Bricoe will be giving 100% in all game's for us this year ... It is a World cup year remember .'"
I hope so Bones.
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"Paul isn't talking about "dropping every player who is out of contract" though is he. He is talking about what's best for the squad for the future. We have a perfectly good winger in Crookes (who BTW hasn't been found guilty of anything at all) who has looked potentially very good with limited opportunities.
If Briscoe is going to leave for another SL club after all that he has said, it's a kick in the teeth to the club and the fans. I would certainly agree with Paul and give Crookes a real chance on the wing. It would gives us a much better idea of what is needed for next season and, let's face it, Crookes could be an improvement on what Briscoe has done this season so far.'"
Firstly, Why would it be in kick in the teeth to the club or the fans? Has he not fulfilled his contractual agreements?
Secondly, the if couldn't be anymore appropriate in this situation.
Thirdly, those trying to convince themselves that Briscoe is easily replaces are having a heads gone episode. I can only imagine if the players view these boards, it could make their minds up fairly quickly that some of the fans we have are fickle to the extreme and they would be off like a shot.

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