As you've repeatedly asked and hopefully to help you settle into the new year...

'Rough patch'......or grossly underperformed for a decade. It's all how you look at it. But rough patch accurate for hull 's last decade naaa...

Out performed Rovers in the past thirty years....by how much exactly. The head to head record in superleague suggests not. When did hull last finish in the top 4? More recently than Rovers? If your desperate to justify your recent history comparing with a club that spent over a decade in the lower divisions and you had a decade start on in superleague then you really have not pulled up any trees have you?

Rovers haven't missed Taylor and Watts as we've done ok for props. Though hull do seem to rely on us for front rowers recently.
Our back row however is a different issue.

Jesus your desperate....and I've been dragged into a hull daily mail comments thread....are you slammer in disguise?

Within the last decade - give or take - we've won the Challenge Cup and appeared in a GF. Plus two more losing CC Final appearances. Hardly 'gross' underperformance when compared against most SL clubs, including Rovers.


Many of your own fans disagree, at least for the last couple of seasons.

Well over half are predicting top 4
Plenty more speculating 4th 5th or 6th.

I'm neither Jesus nor desperate and it's "you're" not "your". I don't read the HDM comments sections.

You never confirmed how many games Scott Taylor played in his second season at Wigan (the one when he was apparently injured and shipped out to Leigh).

Personally I haven't see too many predicting top 4, although considering we finished 7th last year before the break, isnt 4th-6th what we should be targeting with out improved squad? It's the like Rovers targeting 7th/8th isn't it?

If be happy with 2/3 more wins so that we are closer to the top 4 at the split. The position doesn't really matter if we aren't in the top 4, it's how many points we have compared to the others.

Every year I see and hear similar dumb comments. I'd love to meet these thousands of fans, because none of the fans I know ever "predict top 4". I know plenty who would love a top 4 finish, but if fans from other teams can't differentiate between "hoping" and "predicting" then I guess our education system in West Hull isn't quite as bad as in other areas.

It's a prediction thread , hence the title '2016 predictions '

On this thread, more than 50% of posters are predicting top 4? Goodness me.

Well in that case, in 2016 I predict lots of boring trolling by boring rovers fans with nothing better to do.

It's not trolling , but nice try.
Simply pointing out that the majority of posters have you nailed on for fourth minimum , and all but one has you in the top six

What are the actual numbers? (I can't be bothered to check).

7 of the first 10 predicted 4th

Is that it? Is that really the basis of your whole argument? Dave Gorman did a pretty good rant about that sort of survey.

Let me just say that I was talking rugby with a rovers fan and he's concerned about relegation. So using your model I'm perfectly right in stating that 100% of rovers fans (who expressed a view at that time) think they're getting relegated.

Could be wrong but feel free to correct.
4th or better - 5 out of 20 (25%)
Tinkerman23 3rd
KnockersbumpmkII 4th
Airluebirdrunninglate 3rd
Paperboy 4th
Downtheante 4th

4th-6th 5 out of 20 (25%)
Graham Richards 4th or 5th
Hull2524 4th-6th
Rodney_trotter 4th-5th
Fcbaldy 4th-6th
WIZEB 5th


6th or below 10 out of 20 (50%)
Jake the Peg 7th-8th
Sauasagefingers 7th
Bombed out 6th-7th
Number6 6th
Mrs Barista 6th
Wilde3 6th
Blackandwhiteforever 6th
Doom and Gloom Merchant 5th/6th
Weaver93 6th (at best)
Pmarrow 6th

My last post seems to have gone awol

I stopped counting at 7 from 10 when the usual Radford in/Radford out , this players the weak link/ are you joking he's the best in the world guff started.
And Mike , I agree, rovers for relegation, nailed on.

6th/7th.

Forearm.

I rather suspect that Burton got a new spade for Christmas and is continuing to dig a very deep hole, which as we all know will collapse around him. Maybe time for him to retreat and consider his position. It seems that very few of his compatriots are rallying round to support him.

In summary Hull FC fans are predicting on average a better season than this, by, what, a couple of league places? Hardly outrageous forecasts of silverware, more optimistic pre season outlooks based on what most interpret a better squad year on year.

It's easy for Rovers fans to pour cold water on this, why wouldn't they with an imminent overseas camp and a(nother) 5 year plan being made up, but I'm not sure their outrage at our relatively moderate hopes is wholly justified.

I'm big enough to admit when I'm wrong.
I misread one of the posts .
It's 6 of the first 10 , not 7 of 10.
My bad.

Still a majority, mind.

Is it? You said a majority of posters have us nailed on for Top 4 minimum.

Top 4: 4 (Airliebirdrunninglate, Tinkerman23, knockersbumpmkII, paperboy)
4th-6th: 3 (Graham Richards, Doom and Gloom Merchant, hull2524)
6th or lower: 3 (Jake the Peg, number6, Wilde3)

Doesn't this mean that 60% of your cherry-picked sample don't have us as Top 4 minimum, and this increases to 75% if you simply go beyond page 2 of a 17 page thread. Actually 76% if you include Marcus's Bicycle.

So half are predicting a possible 4th place finish...you can dress it how you want but that looks like 50% give or take 1.

Did you sell mortgages for RBS Mrs B?


You all either believe in father Christmas or have a grumbling psychotic illness if you think you'll finish fourth. 4-6 is pushing it.
The ONLY chance of above 6th is if sneyd and Houghton play all year....at their very best.

Over the season, we won't be better than:

leeds
wigan
saints
hudds

Unlikely we'll be better than:

wire
catalans
cas

Leaves us scrapping for 7th at best IMO. We have average halfs, an average attacking hooker with no back up and only 1 decent proven quality outside back. No way on earth will we be top 4 and highly unlikely top 6.

Our failings last season were mainly around turning possession and field position into scores. We haven't signed anyone who is likely to have a major impact on that aspect of our play. radford won't have had a major shift in ability and tactics so we'll pretty much get the same as we had with maybe big frank scoring a few and setting up a few more but that will be it. We will still be dull to watch, have a poor kicking game and poor basic skill set across the whole team. Distribution out of acting half will continue to be slow and inaccurate and we'll fade badly late in the season when some of our older players are either injured or knackered.

Groundhog season

Damn your right........I'm stuck in a fourth placed size hole, deluded staring at another false dawn.....o'meley and Fitzgibbon have us nailed on for top 4......oh wait.......Pearson will make us unstoppable with his huge injection of cash......oh wait.......we're a massive massive club.....oh there go Cas, Huddersfield and a late starter Catalan whooshing past us....again and oh s#it our lower league neighbours finish above us regularly too.
If I'm in a hole what continental sized fault line is your club stuck in?

So we can only possible move up one place, let's hope it's the same for Rovers then and once again you will be back were you belong playing the likes of Sheffield and Leigh.