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| If we had put that team out last yr u wud hve put 40 pts by us in the first half. Just shows what difference a new coach makes. Gentle knows what hes doing even with only half a team. It will be different on Sunday
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| Quote ="airlie"If we had put that team out last yr u wud hve put 40 pts by us in the first half. Just shows what difference a new coach makes. Gentle knows what hes doing even with only half a team. It will be different on Sunday'"
If not Sunday, then definitley later in the season in the Home league fixture with hopefully all of the players back.
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| Quote ="jools"Already answered before you asked it.'"
No. No you didn't.
Quote ="jools"Not in the habit of labouring a point.'"
This thread provides plenty of evidence to the contrary.
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| Just to add to this thread. Before the game on Sunday we were averaging 7.8 penalties per game and Hudds were averaging 7 penalties per game.
Ignoring the 2 token penalties we got in the last 30 seconds of the game then according to the moron in the middle we were 53% more indisciplined than normal and Hudds were 72% more disciplined than usual.
Sounds likely...
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Just to add to this thread. Before the game on Sunday we were averaging 7.8 penalties per game and Hudds were averaging 7 penalties per game.
Ignoring the 2 token penalties we got in the last 30 seconds of the game then according to the moron in the middle we were 53% more indisciplined than normal and Hudds were 72% more disciplined than usual.
Sounds likely...'"
Gotta love statistics!
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Just to add to this thread. Before the game on Sunday we were averaging 7.8 penalties per game and Hudds were averaging 7 penalties per game.
Ignoring the 2 token penalties we got in the last 30 seconds of the game then according to the moron in the middle we were 53% more indisciplined than normal and Hudds were 72% more disciplined than usual.
Sounds likely...'"
The only plauisible explanation is Hull players being fatigued, so they crept forward, had arms go high in the tackle and couldn't get square.
Hudds players, being fatigued obviously tried to conserve energy by not moving forwards, keeping their arms low, and staying square.
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| What a f@@king prick juist watching game back on hullfc live, still in 1st half
Yeamo head high
Seymour never a knock on facing his own sticks
Yeamo dragged in touch cudjoe comes out of side of scrum and drags in
Mckinnon never crossed the advantage line when they knocked on, then he followed suit
Thjats without countless grapples,never square,offside what a pr1ck
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| Quote ="Big Brother"What a f@@king prick juist watching game back on hullfc live, still in 1st half
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Mckinnon never crossed the advantage line when they knocked on, then he followed suit
Thjats without countless grapples,never square,offside what a pr1ck'" Mr Gentle you really should get over it and start thinking how to beat us on Sunday
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| Quote ="PONNER"Mr Gentle you really should get over it and start thinking how to beat us on Sunday
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He knows how to beat you but doesn't have the players available to do it
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| Quote ="PONNER"Mr Gentle you really should get over it and start thinking how to beat us on Sunday
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Do you see this Sunday as a big game? I hope your players do, they have an excellent ability to bottle it in big games. Almost as good as Warringtons, but at least they've won something!
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| East hull fan - Can I ask you whether you thought giants were capable of winning anything in the last three seasons?
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| Quote ="jools"East hull fan - Can I ask you whether you thought giants were capable of winning anything in the last three seasons?'"
The squads been more than capable, the last 2 seasons anyway.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Do you see this Sunday as a big game? I hope your players do, they have an excellent ability to bottle it in big games. Almost as good as Warringtons, but at least they've won something!'" Last sunday was a big game but that didn't stop us giving you a hiding
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| Quote ="jools"East hull fan - Can I ask you whether you thought giants were capable of winning anything in the last three seasons?'"
I don't think so. My honest assessment of the giants is that they are a group of players, pretty much all of whom play at or near their best on a regular basis, who are well coached and have good defensive technique and some pace in the backs. Pretty much every big game you've played in the last 3 years you've lost. wire, wigan, leeds, cats and probably saints have better players than the giants but not all are as well coached. They do have more game breakers who have the experience and ability to turn it on when it matters.
brown has done an excellent job at hudds but I think he knows he will never win anything with you, hence his desire to move on for some time now. The most impressive thing about him is he picks up players that either no one else really wants (brough, brown, lee etc) or players from the lower leagues, and has a great ability to gel them into an effective and cohesive unit.
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| Quote ="PONNER"Last sunday was a big game but that didn't stop us giving you a hiding
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Round 10 of SL isn't a big game, regardless of opposition.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I don't think so. My honest assessment of the giants is that they are a group of players, pretty much all of whom play at or near their best on a regular basis, who are well coached and have good defensive technique and some pace in the backs. Pretty much every big game you've played in the last 3 years you've lost. wire, wigan, leeds, cats and probably saints have better players than the giants but not all are as well coached. They do have more game breakers who have the experience and ability to turn it on when it matters.
brown has done an excellent job at hudds but I think he knows he will never win anything with you, hence his desire to move on for some time now. The most impressive thing about him is he picks up players that either no one else really wants (brough, brown, lee etc) or players from the lower leagues, and has a great ability to gel them into an effective and cohesive unit.'" Don't disagree Jake, when it comes to the GF. But that squad has been capable of winning the cup at least for the last 2 years.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Don't disagree Jake, when it comes to the GF. But that squad has been capable of winning the cup at least for the last 2 years.'"
Most squads in SL are capable of winning it but don't because there are generally 4 or 5 better squads around with better quality players
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Round 10 of SL isn't a big game, regardless of opposition.'"
giants always remind me of a pace-setter in athletics when the 10,000 run is taking place, always at the front at the start then slowly drops off until nowhere to be seen at the finish line
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Round 10 of SL isn't a big game, regardless of opposition.'"
Don't forget some of these people have a different idea of "big" to the rest of world.
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| So the consensus is no -the squad isn't good enough as there are better squads out there. Good so when we don't win anything again-don't call us bottlers as the consensus is we aren't good enough to win anything. We have been accused of being arrogant and the rest - We at the giants have put up with languishing in the lower leagues for decades playing in front of 400 spectators. We lost a generation of supporters who didnt agree with the move from the old fartown ground. We were promoted to SL last minute when paris dropped out without the benefit of time to build a squad -we had a championship squad in the SL and got trounced every week and as a result no one wanted to sign for us and spectators couldn't be convinced to watch a losing side. And so we lost another generation of supporters. The rfl were desperate to keep us in SL for the stadium even though we wanted to be relegated to enable us to rebuild. They forced a merger on us which resulted in more supporters turning their backs. We have built our supporter base up which has doubled in the last half dozen years, we have gone from the whipping boys to a solid side in a relatively short space of time. Most of the supporters on here have gone through all that and frankly get p****d off when we still get c**p of supporters from other teams who still witter on about lack of trophies and poor support (which is actually now comparable or higher to the majority of teams in SL) now I expect the sarcastic aww bless remarks etc but I just wonder if your team had gone through what our s had in the same amount of time how would your trophy cabinet/ supporter base look?
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| When did Hudds fans become such sensitive souls?
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| Quote ="jools"So the consensus is no -the squad isn't good enough as there are better squads out there. Good so when we don't win anything again-don't call us bottlers as the consensus is we aren't good enough to win anything. We have been accused of being arrogant and the rest - We at the giants have put up with languishing in the lower leagues for decades playing in front of 400 spectators. We lost a generation of supporters who didnt agree with the move from the old fartown ground. We were promoted to SL last minute when paris dropped out without the benefit of time to build a squad -we had a championship squad in the SL and got trounced every week and as a result no one wanted to sign for us and spectators couldn't be convinced to watch a losing side. And so we lost another generation of supporters. The rfl were desperate to keep us in SL for the stadium even though we wanted to be relegated to enable us to rebuild. They forced a merger on us which resulted in more supporters turning their backs. We have built our supporter base up which has doubled in the last half dozen years, we have gone from the whipping boys to a solid side in a relatively short space of time. Most of the supporters on here have gone through all that and frankly get p****d off when we still get c**p of supporters from other teams who still witter on about lack of trophies and poor support (which is actually now comparable or higher to the majority of teams in SL) now I expect the sarcastic aww bless remarks etc but I just wonder if your team had gone through what our s had in the same amount of time how would your trophy cabinet/ supporter base look?'"
In all fairness, you can't argue with that.
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| Quote ="jools"So the consensus is no -the squad isn't good enough as there are better squads out there. Good so when we don't win anything again-don't call us bottlers as the consensus is we aren't good enough to win anything. We have been accused of being arrogant and the rest - We at the giants have put up with languishing in the lower leagues for decades playing in front of 400 spectators. We lost a generation of supporters who didnt agree with the move from the old fartown ground. We were promoted to SL last minute when paris dropped out without the benefit of time to build a squad -we had a championship squad in the SL and got trounced every week and as a result no one wanted to sign for us and spectators couldn't be convinced to watch a losing side. And so we lost another generation of supporters. The rfl were desperate to keep us in SL for the stadium even though we wanted to be relegated to enable us to rebuild. They forced a merger on us which resulted in more supporters turning their backs. We have built our supporter base up which has doubled in the last half dozen years, we have gone from the whipping boys to a solid side in a relatively short space of time. Most of the supporters on here have gone through all that and frankly get p****d off when we still get c**p of supporters from other teams who still witter on about lack of trophies and poor support (which is actually now comparable or higher to the majority of teams in SL) now I expect the sarcastic aww bless remarks etc but I just wonder if your team had gone through what our s had in the same amount of time how would your trophy cabinet/ supporter base look?'"
*sniff*
Anyone got a hanky?
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Quote ="jools"So the consensus is no -the squad isn't good enough as there are better squads out there. Good so when we don't win anything again-don't call us bottlers as the consensus is we aren't good enough to win anything. We have been accused of being arrogant and the rest - We at the giants have put up with languishing in the lower leagues for decades playing in front of 400 spectators. We lost a generation of supporters who didnt agree with the move from the old fartown ground. We were promoted to SL last minute when paris dropped out without the benefit of time to build a squad -we had a championship squad in the SL and got trounced every week and as a result no one wanted to sign for us and spectators couldn't be convinced to watch a losing side. And so we lost another generation of supporters. The rfl were desperate to keep us in SL for the stadium even though we wanted to be relegated to enable us to rebuild. They forced a merger on us which resulted in more supporters turning their backs. We have built our supporter base up which has doubled in the last half dozen years, we have gone from the whipping boys to a solid side in a relatively short space of time. Most of the supporters on here have gone through all that and frankly get p****d off when we still get c**p of supporters from other teams who still witter on about lack of trophies and poor support (which is actually now comparable or higher to the majority of teams in SL) now I expect the sarcastic aww bless remarks etc but I just wonder if your team had gone through what our s had in the same amount of time how would your trophy cabinet/ supporter base look?'"
In all fairness, you can't argue with that.'"
Not if self-pitying bo1locks is your thing, I suppose.
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