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| Quote ="Sheldon"1. fans always over rate players who are signing/playing for them.'"
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Quote ="Mrs Barista"That was under the previous regime, cockle. Fortunately for us our new owner's not talking about taking backward steps.'"
Lets make this simple. AP said your signings would be top class, in the same mould as Ellis. Out of your 3 signings so far, this is only true on one occasion.
Losing Manu and replacing him with Ellis IMO is not a step forward, more of a like for like. Manu has consistantly been your top attacking player and a player teams fear.
Again signing Arundal is more a like for like after losing Turner, but how Arundal goes, nobody is really sure. He looked good in his debut season but has spent the majority of this season injured.
Watts as most of us Rovers fans know he has the potential but as for applying that well, lets just say he has shown very little of it in his last two seasons. An improvement, who knows!
With the rumours surrounding the club regarding players wanting out, the running of the club been a shamble, it could well be a different FC side we see out next season. AP has alot of work to do regarding ingoing and outgoing players, I suppose we will see what true ambition he has in the next signings brought in.
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| Well there's a suprise, a Rovers fan knocking our new signings.
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"Well there's a suprise, a Rovers fan knocking our new signings.'"
I didn't really see his post as knocking our new signings. I didn't agree with everything he wrote but I can see his reasoning for some of them.
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Lets make this simple. AP said your signings would be top class, in the same mould as Ellis. Out of your 3 signings so far, this is only true on one occasion.
Losing Manu and replacing him with Ellis IMO is not a step forward, more of a like for like. Manu has consistantly been your top attacking player and a player teams fear.
Again signing Arundal is more a like for like after losing Turner, but how Arundal goes, nobody is really sure. He looked good in his debut season but has spent the majority of this season injured.
Watts as most of us Rovers fans know he has the potential but as for applying that well, lets just say he has shown very little of it in his last two seasons. An improvement, who knows!
With the rumours surrounding the club regarding players wanting out, the running of the club been a shamble, it could well be a different FC side we see out next season. AP has alot of work to do regarding ingoing and outgoing players, I suppose we will see what true ambition he has in the next signings brought in.'"
Manu for Ellis = like for like, I laughed that hard when I read that I nearly wet myself and then stopped taking your post seriously.
However, everyone understands that Watts is a gamble, but provided the club have covered the bases with a tight contract, one they can't really lose imo.
With regards to Turner, apart from a 6 week period earlier this season, he has been nothing but average in his time at Hull imo, so Arundal won't exactly have to pull up any trees to be an upgrade.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Correct
Lets make this simple. AP said your signings would be top class, in the same mould as Ellis. Out of your 3 signings so far, this is only true on one occasion.
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Got a link for that quote? He said in the Mail that we have two big signings yet to be confirmed. He never compared them or any of the players already signed but not yet named to Gareth Ellis.
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Losing Manu and replacing him with Ellis IMO is not a step forward, more of a like for like. Manu has consistantly been your top attacking player and a player teams fear.
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Bollox. Ellis is still one of the best back rowers in the world. Manu is a great player and will be sorely missed but no way can you say they are "like for like".
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Got a link for that quote? He said in the Mail that we have two big signings yet to be confirmed. He never compared them or any of the players already signed but not yet named to Gareth Ellis.'"
“For far too long now, Hull FC have been languishing in the lower reaches and with a limit to their ambition and a failure to compete with the big sides.
“Our intention is to have the club back in a position to do that again as soon as possible and the only way we can do that is by investing in the squad and signing players of Gareth’s calibre.”
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"
With the rumours surrounding the club regarding players wanting out, the running of the club been a shamble, it could well be a different FC side we see out next season. AP has alot of work to do regarding ingoing and outgoing players, I suppose we will see what true ambition he has in the next signings brought in.'"
WTF are you on about? The club are not responsible for rumours, nor are they answerable to them.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"“For far too long now, Hull FC have been languishing in the lower reaches and with a limit to their ambition and a failure to compete with the big sides.
“Our intention is to have the club back in a position to do that again as soon as possible and the only way we can do that is by investing in the squad and signing players of Gareth’s calibre.”
From the official Hull FC website, Thursday, 22 March 2012.'"
That clearly doesn't mean all players we will sign will be of Ellis' standard
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Every signing has an element of risk to it. But a comparison between Ellis' and Manu's NRL appearances and International caps has me feeling confident that we have a definite upgrade.
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Well with Arundal and Watts falling well short of been in the calibre of Ellis, I'm sure you and the rest of the FC fans will be expecting more huge signings! as is the intent of AP.
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| Thing is, it doesn't matter how good or bad these signings are if we don't get the rest of our recruitment and retention correct, so we should really wait until things progress further before we judge things too much.
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| yes we do and yes we will have more huge signings, unlike your lot, you must have your green jumper and shorts on today rupert
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Well with Arundal and Watts falling well short of been in the calibre of Ellis, I'm sure you and the rest of the FC fans will be expecting more huge signings! as is the intent of AP.'"
Talk about misinterpreting a quote.
Stop spending so much time analysing quotes from FC and looking for faults.
Who knows? By the time Arundel and Watts reach Ellis's age they may have achieved as much as him and proved to have been top calibre signings. Time wil tell.
But we are not going to be filling the team with players over 30 who have achieved much. We need the best of the youth as well.
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| Quote ="davey37"Talk about misinterpreting a quote.
Stop spending so much time analysing quotes from FC and looking for faults.
Who knows? By the time Arundel and Watts reach Ellis's age they may have achieved as much as him and proved to have been top calibre signings. Time wil tell.
But we are not going to be filling the team with players over 30 who have achieved much. We need the best of the youth as well.'"
Well I will stick my my neck on the line now and clearly say Arundal and Watts will never achieve anything in the game to be compared to Ellis.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Well with Arundal and Watts falling well short of been in the calibre of Ellis, I'm sure you and the rest of the FC fans will be expecting more huge signings! as is the intent of AP.'"
Hudgell said 7 years ago that your 5 year plan was to be challenging for SL honours in a 14 k stadium. You're currently out of the play-off places and according to some in a similar financial position to Bradford, looking to trade down your squad on gates of 7k. Rovers most publicised achievement of the last 3 years, sadly, has been the ridiculed Willie Mason saga, a truly shambolic effort by your incumbent administration. The landscape of recruitment is changing for both clubs, but the acid test will be the quality of squads our respective coaches put together. I'm happy as it stands that AP won't sell Gentle or the fans short in this respect. We may not get the best squad but we will be looking at a spend approaching the full cap. Will Hudgell maintain his assertion of challenging for SL honours? He'd better, that £2m stand won't pay for itself.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"=#FF0000Hudgell said 7 years ago that your 5 year plan was to be challenging for SL honours in a 14 k stadium. You're currently out of the play-off places and according to some in a similar financial position to Bradford, looking to trade down your squad on gates of 7k. Rovers most publicised achievement of the last 3 years, sadly, has been the ridiculed Willie Mason saga, a truly shambolic effort by your incumbent administration. The landscape of recruitment is changing for both clubs, but the acid test will be the quality of squads our respective coaches put together. I'm happy as it stands that AP won't sell Gentle or the fans short in this respect. We may not get the best squad but we will be looking at a spend approaching the full cap. =#FF0000Will Hudgell maintain his assertion of challenging for SL honours? He'd better, that £2m stand won't pay for itself.'"
And this is on the FC board on an FC thread for what reason?
You read what AP quoted, his last two signings are not exactly what he claimed.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"And this is on the FC board on an FC thread for what reason?
You read what AP quoted, his last two signings are not exactly what he claimed.'"
Here's an idea for you. We'll stay on our board and you stay on yours, with the rest of the underclass.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Well with Arundal and Watts falling well short of been in the calibre of Ellis, I'm sure you and the rest of the FC fans will be expecting more huge signings! as is the intent of AP.'"
At least our signings will be known,unlike your mob who seem to take any journeyman Aussie going.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"And this is on the FC board on an FC thread for what reason?
You read what AP quoted, his last two signings are not exactly what he claimed.'"
you cant fill the team with ellis-esque signings though can you and until AP says thats the recruitment is done for next year,you really cant spout can you?
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"And this is on the FC board on an FC thread for what reason?
You read what AP quoted, his last two signings are not exactly what he claimed.'"
God...so what if they arent what "AP claimed"...sooner have Pearson to back the coach than the gob$hite midget you have.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"At least our signings will be known,unlike your mob who seem to take any journeyman Aussie going.'"
Your so right!
Just remind me how the current SOO and Aus International Shaun Berrigan did for you guys, then take a look at what Dobson has done for Catalan, Wigan and HKR, now you tell me about how some of these unknown Aussie journeymen go in SL. There again just remeind me of the competion we are playing in?
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Your so right!
Just remind me how the current SOO and Aus International Shaun Berrigan did for you guys, then take a look at what Dobson has done for Catalan, Wigan and HKR, now you tell me about how some of these unknown Aussie journeymen go in SL. There again just remeind me of the competion we are playing in?'"
Berrigan took us to a cup final thanks......How did Dobson do at his Aussie clubs eh...sod all,thats what,pity Dobsons NRL career doesnt match that of Berrigans.So you saying Berrigan was a journeyman ...who is this bugger you have signed...nobody has heard of him.
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