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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"what did kear do after we won the cc?'"
Not for upsetting the players ...........................
They used a run of poor results to get rid of Mr Kear, sure it was well rumoured he had "lost the dressing room". JK told the squad the day before he was sacked "that things would be btter soon and they would go on a long run of wins " ....................... he got that right.
JK was paid the same rate he had when he was bombers No2 and even after winning the Challenge cup his pay was not increased. He started to do what he wanted, stopped doing non coaching appearances etc. That upset the powers that be and they got rid of him and he has a gagging order on his leaving handshake as well .
Players who where around at that time will know this to be correct.
s for Rich Agar not being experienced , he has been assistant coach funder two coaches and did lead the etam during that famed run in 2006.
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| Quote ="Ian P"Not for upsetting the players ...........................
They used a run of poor results to get rid of Mr Kear, sure it was well rumoured he had "lost the dressing room". JK told the squad the day before he was sacked "that things would be btter soon and they would go on a long run of wins " ....................... he got that right.
JK was paid the same rate he had when he was bombers No2 and even after winning the Challenge cup his pay was not increased. He started to do what he wanted, stopped doing non coaching appearances etc. That upset the powers that be and they got rid of him and he has a gagging order on his leaving handshake as well .
Players who where around at that time will know this to be correct.
s for Rich Agar not being experienced , he has been assistant coach funder two coaches and did lead the etam during that famed run in 2006.'"
agar had zilch experience of head coach at the top level and should never have been appointed. Very poor decision
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Does anyone know who coupe and fulton are?'"
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Coupe has been an RL fan all his life and played at amateur level. Fulton is a recent convert. Both were shareholders and investors in Gateshead.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Does anyone know who coupe and fulton are?'"
they where part of the Gateshead franchise and they came with merger along with the Etheringtons, Richo et al. They are all quite accomplished business people to be fair and have done a good job in bringing the club upto the level it achieved.
What they need to do now is let go of the reins a bit, let those appointed to manage ..............MANAGE
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"what did kear do after we won the cc?'" His massive self promotion after winning the cup didnt do him any favours with senior players in the squad.
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"His massive self promotion after winning the cup didnt do him any favours with senior players in the squad.'"
I've always thought he was a conceited little shiit
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| Quote ="Ian P"they where part of the Gateshead franchise and they came with merger along with the Etheringtons, Richo et al. They are all quite accomplished business people to be fair and have done a good job in bringing the club upto the level it achieved.
What they need to do now is let go of the reins a bit, let those appointed to manage ..............MANAGE'"
I just didn't know who they were. Don't think they'll be actively involved day to day as I reckon that's cath's remit
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I've always thought he was a conceited little shiit'"
Been told he actually danced a little jig of delight on the pitch after the game on Saturday.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"agar had zilch experience of head coach at the top level and should never have been appointed. Very poor decision'"
Nobby was no2 at Bradford,
John Sharp was no2 under Millward at Saints
you only get experience by doing the job, we need new Brit born Coaches Rich Agar has been one of the best of the bunch thus far. Replacing him with Sharp is not going to improve things because he will have the same problems.
You need the faith to carry it through sometimes, Rich is playing with others peoples players in the main. Coupled with some bad injuries that has not helped the cause and Thorman was never going to be the answer.
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| Quote ="Ian P"
As for Rich Agar not being experienced , he has been assistant coach funder two coaches and did lead the etam during that famed run in 2006.'"
He was caretaker coach for four games. We lost at home to Leeds, beat Wakefield at home and Huddersfield and Catalans away.
Sharp was here for the Wigan game (the one we led 42-0 at half time). It's debatable whether he or Agar was in charge for that game, but after that Sharp certainly was and we won the following nine.
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| Quote ="Ian P"Nobby was no2 at Bradford,
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you only get experience by doing the job, we need new Brit born Coaches Rich Agar has been one of the best of the bunch thus far. Replacing him with Sharp is not going to improve things because he will have the same problems.
You need the faith to carry it through sometimes, Rich is playing with others peoples players in the main. Coupled with some bad injuries that has not helped the cause and Thorman was never going to be the answer.'"
Didn't save Sharp.
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| Quote ="Ian P"you only get experience by doing the job, we need new Brit born Coaches Rich Agar has been one of the best of the bunch thus far.'" I really couldnt care if Agar was from Bradford or Basra in all honesty, a passport shouldnt be taken into account when looking for the right person for the job.
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| Quote ="Ian P"Nobby was no2 at Bradford,
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you only get experience by doing the job, we need new Brit born Coaches Rich Agar has been one of the best of the bunch thus far. Replacing him with Sharp is not going to improve things because he will have the same problems.
You need the faith to carry it through sometimes, Rich is playing with others peoples players in the main. Coupled with some bad injuries that has not helped the cause and Thorman was never going to be the answer.'"
noble took over a great squad which he dismantled before moving on. He's very well regarded in wigan I hear. sharp was eventually sacked by huddersfield and the mere mention of his name now strikes fear into the heart of every right minded Hull FC fan
Do you see any pattern emerging here?
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"I really couldnt care if Agar was from Bradford or Basra in all honesty, a passport shouldnt be taken into account when looking for the right person for the job.'"
To be fair, the brits are a lot cheaper
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Didn't save Sharp.'"
No it did'nt
The board could see that axing Sharpe was the only way of maintaining the progress of Hull FC company limited profit margins. It worked and I doubt repeating the experiment will work with the faithful again, Sharp was out of his depth.
I do think everyone agreed on that one
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| Quote ="Ian P"they where part of the Gateshead franchise and they came with merger along with the Etheringtons, Richo et al. They are all quite accomplished business people to be fair and have done a good job in bringing the club upto the level it achieved.
What they need to do now is let go of the reins a bit, let those appointed to manage ..............MANAGE'" The board have done a good job, but maybe they've taken the club as far as they can and should realise this and move on. The financial debt we owe them is sustainable so they shouldn't have any worries there.
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| Quote ="Ian P"No it did'nt
The board could see that axing Sharpe was the only way of maintaining the progress of Hull FC company limited profit margins. It worked and I doubt repeating the experiment will work with the faithful again, Sharp was out of his depth.
I do think everyone agreed on that one'"
You 'think' wrong.
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| Quote ="trys'r'us"You 'think' wrong.'"
I meant about being out of his depth
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| Quote ="Ian P"I meant about being out of his depth
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I know. He wasn't.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Been told he actually danced a little jig of delight on the pitch after the game on Saturday.
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| Quote ="trys'r'us"I know. He wasn't.'"
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"I know what your getting at but i can honestly say i have seen nothing from Agar that suggests he is the man to lead us back into title contention. There does need to be a clearout at the end of the season with Tickle, Thackray and King the main 3 who have to go but so should Agar, Sharp and Last.'"
I'd be happy to see all those six go out the door.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I'd be happy to see all those six go out the door.'"
I doubt you'll get much argument from people Paul, I think that is what is making people so pig sick of things, the professionals can't see what the mere mortals identified some time ago.
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| Quote ="Ian P"pretty much on your own there then
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No, not really. There were a few on here who were happy for him to stay, certainly until the end of the season before making a decision then, and I know plenty of others who were happy with the job he did. A minority, certainly, but that's to be expected when received opinion is usually that of the most vocal.
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