The difference he makes is that he's signed a full-time contract and is now a first team squad member. What does experience matter? He can only get that by playing.

That I do agree with, there's only feka who is that style of prop in this league, and for that style of prop he's only knocked on once or twice and hardly gives a penalty away. He at least deserves another year.

Tansey
Raynor
Calderwood
Yeaman
Hall
T Briscoe
Horne
Long
Whiting
Washbrook
Turner
Tuffour
J Briscoe

Plenty to choose from ere, but would still like a natural half back

As I said earlier, ben jeffries is ooc with the bulls.

Tom Briscoe was 'chucked straight in'. Richard Horne was 'chucked straight in'. Yes, certain areas need working on, but that will come with full-time training and game time.

Are you trying to tell us something ? does he count on the qouta ? Would be pointless really as hes only a half back , we need a utility surely .

Are you hinting at something? Jeffries is quota isn't he? Can't see us giving him the last quota spot ahead of Sam.

We need cover in the halves, ben would give us that, he will also qualify for residency so he won't count on the quota. We have cover in the backs, none in the halves!

Would you be comfortable and happy with Tuffour in the side for lets say 10-15 games next season then if injurys kick in again?

That would be madness, so I can, actually, see us doing something just like that

Residency.

I really wouldn't be surprised if the "utility back" isn't Todd. The door was not permanently slammed. Agar loves him and I can imagine Hull waiting on a forecast for his fitness next season for the last quota space over Sam.

I love Todd, but to see O'Meley, Fitz, Willie, Lauaki and Moa on one together...

Going back to Wakey I heard.

He's going to be fourth choice winger, so it'd need injuries to two wingers for him to get a game anyway. From what I've seen of him, with a bit of time in the gym, he'd be capable of playing in the first team.

Is that enough to make him "off quota" though?

I think we need the backs strengthening more than the forwards, but when you put it like that.

That was my point , it was pointless classing him as cover !!

I'm really struggling to see your point at all to be honest?

or celtic crusaders even (jeffries that is!)

it worked for Manu and Webster. Joined wakey in 2003.
Just a name to mention and get feedback, not the worst option at cover, but could probably get a start at a few other clubs. He's been linked to Celtic and Wakefield.

Brother I agree, although you are advocating a cheap option which never goes down well on here. Whilst I would hate to think we miss out on someone young and enthusiastic, we have had our fill of that type of player over the past 5 years. I personally think that our pack as things stand is looking strong for next year. Our back line for me needs the strengthening. If that means we keep all our options open until the last minute then so be it.
imo one or two on here are getting a little carried away with Moa based on a handful of games. I personally do not see that he brings anything additional to the squad. I guess we can debate this all day and we will not agree.
Our problem as I see it is that we offered the Yak a contract too soon. If we had kept our options open there I am sure Moa would have been signed up and not the Yak.

Todd Byrne is back over here I think.

gonna celtic