I think it is early to write him off, his early season form was good and feel he has been a bit scapegoated in the last two league games, it's his first full season. You even said on another thread young players need time

... 2 penalties in total. Not the end of the world I'd have thought.

Fortunately, Radford is unlikely to pick or drop any player on the basis of one performance.

Turgut had a shocker against Hudds, did himself no favours against Leeds and has the propensity to give away petulant penalties.

Others deserve their chance ahead of him for this week at least.

See nothing but a loss against Wigan. IMO the club has bigged up trying to get to the GF far too much publicly and in a way added extra pressure. With suspensions and injuries i cant see us beating Wigan (though of course if we do ill be pleased before anyone starts).

If they did not big up their chances, after last years CC win and even more so after this years, they would be accused of lacking ambition.

There is no extra pressure now to what there was 5 months ago IMO

I think we are in for a really tough night. Without wishing to sound like Shaun Wane, we are the underdogs this week.

Big time. If watts doesn't make it and talanoa won't IMO then we could be in for a long night

Also you've got to question the logic of a Player of the Year evening 48 hours before a vital game. Not suggesting that the squad are on the lash but even so, seems strange.

The timing does seem odd, with 3-5 games left, but the players were very relaxed, not drinking and, with the exception of Sika, I think they had all gone, or were leaving by the time we left (just after 11). They'll have been training this morning too.

Odd timing but I don't think it will affect them.

Maybe the club have done it deliberately early so it doesn't affect focus during the run in?

Correct.

we have the awards night every year at more or less the same time don't we?

Saints done us a big favour tonight. Win tomorrow and that's top 4 sealed with 2 games left which would be bloody marvellous.

maybe its the only time the city hall was available?


anyway, after tonights result, tomorrows game has just got even more important! need our defence and discipline to be at its best

but we all remember the last time hicks reffed an important wigan v fc last season in the semi finals! gave us jack poop

very tough game tomorrow.. our right edge looks very week

Not sure that was a good result for us tonight like some are saying, looking at the fixtures think Saints will win their last two games putting them on 33, fancy Wigan to win their last two games, so if they beat us tomorrow I think we could be in trouble.

Would mean we would have to beat Wakey and Cas away.

Our points difference could be our downfall

I've said the same for us on our board. A Wakey win would've kept us further away from the top four in points terms yet tomorrow wouldn't be quite as 'win or bust' for us as it feels now. I've no doubt Saints will win their last two so if we lose tomorrow we've got problems yet if we win we jump from 6th to 3rd!

This end to the season is exactly what this format needed.

No chance. We now need to win 2 from 3 or we probably wont make the 4

Think we will beat Wakey, not sure we will get the other win though.

Need to win tomorrow

Key players out for tomorrow and a makeshift backline cant see us living with an inform Wigan who really need to win tomorrow.
Tuimavave also out for another 2 weeks
Had a horrible feeling we would blow it.

we haven't blown it, we haven't played yet!

connor at centre, hopefully tala will play, if not then thommo and griffin need step up again like at saints

What's your team looking like lads? Any news on Talanoua/ Watts ?

I've no doubts we won't beat cas last game if we have to win . Were good in one off games knowing we have to win and cas will have nothing to play for and will surely have one eye on the semi the week after . I don't fancy us tomorrow but I do think we'll be in the 4 .

With Sts win I take back what I said
We can postpone our must win match to another day
I really now have a bad feeling about the result
If we lose we stay in the 4 and the players know it
We know Wigan play Wakey later on and thus
Tonight's game is no longer a ' must win'
It's a must win for me for lot of reasons but now can't see it
Hope I'm very very wrong