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| Just seen this rumour emerging. Very interesting.
They're both overweight, slow and no kicking game. What would be the point?
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| Christ i hope not. McShane is much the better player and has a better attitude as well.
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| I put on here the other day about mcshane to cas which is a done deal apparently but I heard that there other hooker adam milner had signed for Huddersfield next year but I suppose the Scott Moore one could be correct.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Just seen this rumour emerging. Very interesting.'"
Presumably this will be with immediate effect so to speak, because he won't be ours to swap at the end of the season.
Hopefully it's just a silly mischief making rumour
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| This would go down as one of the worst bits of business , from a playing ability, point of view ever done. McShane is a good RL player Moore isn`t.
Boy do we miss a Rugby Committee.
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| Confirmed. Can only be a deal done for financial reasons or an unsettled player. It simply cannot have anything to do with Rugby. Talk about going into the biggest fight of our lives with one hand tied behind our backs.
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| Confirmed. McShane to Cas on a two and a half year deal, we get Scott Moore on loan until the end of the season. Words fail me.
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| I remember a lot of Cas and also many Wakey fans laughing when we replaced Clark with Scott Moore, and I was really disappointed. But in fairness he has played okay for us this year and just has struggled recently as Ben Roberts has gone really well at number nine.
I don't think he is as good as McShane from what I've seen of him and think we at Cas have a better player from this deal, but if he plays as he has at Cas I'm sure and hope you'll be pleasantly surprised.
Still, it seems a very strange deal and there must be more to this than just the playing front.
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| I can only see the reason why this deal has happened is that mc Shane has wanted to go and with pita been injured we are left without an out and out hooker, yes sio and howarth can play there but there not number 9 in my opinion, so we have got what we can out the deal in taking Scott Moore! Not the biggest fan of Moore but hope he can prove me and would think a lot of douters wrong and can do a job for us.
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| Let's hope we got money too!
I guess we got McShane on the swap deal with Aiton so it is just rolling on.
I didn't think it was logical to swap Aiton for McShane but wasn't a bad deal when he came. Recently he's drifted a bit in quality so maybe it's better for both clubs and both players.
From a Moore point of view it doesn't look good, but it's up to him to prove his quality.
Leeds took a good player and gave us their cast off. Cas are now taking that cast off after he has had a couple of seasons at the bottom club. I think they should be aiming higher.
I'd have rather swapped for Roberts
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| Dont know people are upset at this mcshane as been poor for me and was always leaving atvend of season moore is as good as mcshane but needs to play well for a contract
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| Quote ="leedscat"Dont know people are upset at this mcshane as been poor for me and was always leaving atvend of season moore is as good as mcshane but needs to play well for a contract'"
I'm sure daryll powell will get the best out of him.
He's a master at that.
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| Quote ="The Doctor
I don't think he is as good as McShane from what I've seen of him and think we at Cas have a better player from this deal.'"
This new found relationship between the clubs only benefits one party and it isn't us. Owen, Tansey, Moore. Is MC secretly a Cas fan?
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| I really like McShane and some of the criticism of him is similar to the stuff Miller gets.
He works hard and puts effort in but people see him miss a tackle and he's supposed to be fat and lazy. What they don't see is he ran passed another player to try and make the tackle. I think we've just battered the skill out of him this year.
It's a shame.
Let's see what Moore can do.
In order I want him to be able to tackle, pass a quick accurate pass from dummy half, run.
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| Seems a weird one and maybe not the last but he is probably fitter than McShane as most players at other clubs seem to have been this year, although maybe we are catching up? Didn't look like it against Cas last week though did it.
What is certain is that we need 17 players who will give 100% for us come game 1 in the middle 8s.
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| Cas must be laughing their socks off now they can off load all their rubbish on to our gullible club.
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| What a bloody shambles, how the hell is our squad expected to compete with Leigh , Bradford and Halifax in the Middle 8. We know that we have no chance against the SL teams. Think Leigh and Bradford will stuff us and we may run Fax close.
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| it is certainly a good one for the doom laden moaners, that's for sure.
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| I think we (Cas) have got the better end of the deal here and can totally understand the sentiments already mentioned regarding the relationship between our two clubs. I rate McShane and think he'll go ok for us. I don't think he'll have to do as many minutes at Cas or have as much pressure on him to create/perform, but it might be next season before we really see any benefit as his fitness isn't where it needs to be.
What I will say about Moore is that I was really unhappy when we signed him, but have got to hold my hands up and say he's a better player than I gave him credit for and he'll definitely add some steel to your defence. Barring the odd brain fart I think you'll be pleasantly surprised with him.
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| why are cas laughing at us ,hes just an average hooker,scott moore is just what we need for the middle 8.much tougher and loads of experience far better tackler than p mcshane imo.
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| M carter been asked on twitter if anymore players coming in and his reply "1 but its a longshot"
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| Quote ="leedscat"M carter been asked on twitter if anymore players coming in and his reply "1 but its a longshot"'"
Our Cas reject quota must be full.
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| Quote ="roverman"why are cas laughing at us ,hes just an average hooker,scott moore is just what we need for the middle 8.much tougher and loads of experience far better tackler than p mcshane imo.'"
Whilst they can never tell the whole story thats not what the stats say....
[uMcShane [/u
22 games
593 tackles (ave. 27 per game)
36 misses (ave 1.64)
[uMoore[/u
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333 tackles (ave 23.8 )
32 misses (ave. 2.3)
Given that McShane has been playing in a badly beaten side all season and Moore hasn't then those stats look even better for him. He is better in every other statistical area as well. He was our only ever present this year so he has certainly showed some toughness there as well.
As for experience, yes Moore has played about 40 games more than Mcshane, then again we are his 10th club change and 7th different club by the age of 27. Tells you something.
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| if a teams getting beat every week the coach has got to do something,getting rid of the weak links, thats what bs is doing,or do you want nothing to change and just carry on,dont underestimate bs or mc.
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| Not a big fan of either and if we have to loose McShane for something/one better long term then so be it.
We don't appear to be getting anything of quality out of all these wakey - cas deals do we?????
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