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| About the attitude at the club from top to bottom. Disgusted at the players performances, embarrassed at Agars inept coaching and management. Don't see any positives in scoring 18 points across three games and conceding 146!!!
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| I suppose they could have let the club fold last year, you would have been happy then. True supporter...... Not.
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| Did you go last night
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| Does it matter if he went last night or not if he's a supporter he's allowed an opinion
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| Well I didn't go due to work but had it on the radio while driving the truck sounded as though Leeds were far to good for us.Talking with Big lads mate at the ground this morning and he said some effort was on display last night but Leeds were a class above what we had faced so far this season.I still think Agar is not the man with his strange selections "why break up Sammut/Godinet half back partnership when it looked so good after 3 and a bit games ?.
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| Fair enough. It is all in the wording.
He is clearly upset with the team and the coach.
Difficult to question the club as a whole, however when you have Carter and his staff working their socks off on a day by day basis and Snowie and all other volunteers doing their all to put the club in a better place.
We are lucky to have a club to support now get on with supporting them.
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| Been looking at squad from 2011 and on paper this squad looks better. We won 7 games but were docked 4 for admin. I cant see us winning games unless the coaches have looked at any games like Leeds and other top teams and said dont just a gut If we have no chance. I know some will say not Trying on purpose sounds ridiculous but If were true would be the best option at moment and picking the games we have a chance in.
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| Don't know but presume Mr carter gone a long way to saving this club with his financial knowledge and it goes without saying a big thanks to snowie and his team have done but folk on here have the right to question things that doesn't seem right without being accused of not being true supporters nowt wrong with being disgusted by efforts put in by full time pros when you pay good money to support them
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| I held a door open for Kath and she didn't say thank you!
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| Quote ="charlie"I held a door open for Kath and she didn't say thank you!'"
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| Quote ="try scorer"Don't know but presume Mr carter gone a long way to saving this club with his financiege and it goes without saying a big thanks to snowie and his team have done but folk on here have the right to question things that doesn't seem right without being accused of not being true supporters nowt wrong with being disgusted by efforts put in by full time pros when you pay good money to support them'"
I think the point being made is, how can you be disgusted at a performance you didn't see.
By all means everything else but I didn't go so I find it hard to say whether they improved or not.
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| And I repeat pop tart you don't have to be there to be classed as a supporter look at the score hear the commentary,doesn't take a genious to work out the performance oh they might have watched highlights on Leeds website they were disgusting
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| Quote ="PopTart"I think the point being made is, how can you be disgusted at a performance you didn't see.
By all means everything else but I didn't go so I find it hard to say whether they improved or not.'"
Wasting you time Poptart,mentioned about opinions earlier and and got my legs slapped Was hoping it was going to be a quiet weekend of postings as so many were staying away,guess I was wrong :SUBMISSION Mystic Meg must have been on overtime.
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| I didn't go so cannot comment other than the score which was an improvement on last week. With regards the commentary you cannot always judge a game from what they say. I listened to the Salford game and you would not think we were even on the pitch let alone be so close to beating them. They do have a reputation for not always portraying what is going on the pitch accurately.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I didn't go so cannot comment other than the score which was an improvement on last week. With regards the commentary you cannot always judge a game from what they say. I listened to the Salford game and you would not think we were even on the pitch let alone be so close to beating them. They do have a reputation for not always portraying what is going on the pitch accurately.'"
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I didn't go so cannot comment other than the score which was an improvement on last week. With regards the commentary you cannot always judge a game from what they say. I listened to the Salford game and you would not think we were even on the pitch let alone be so close to beating them. They do have a reputation for not always portraying what is going on the pitch accurately.'"
What I meant to say was, correct Scarlet,but sometimes trying to put a point forward is like
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| Quote ="try scorer"Don't know but presume Mr carter gone a long way to saving this club with his financial knowledge and it goes without saying a big thanks to snowie and his team have done but folk on here have the right to question things that doesn't seem right without being accused of not being true supporters nowt wrong with being disgusted by efforts put in by full time pros when you pay good money to support them'" it quite understandable to moan especially after taking some serious defeats so lets break it all down.
another financial melt down nearly cost the club super league status in which from hrs of admin they have turned it around, while MC has been open enough for anyone to view the books it would about skim over most of our heads.
some of the stories I hear are so cringe worthy you just couldn't understand how it never imploded earlier.
There are staff behind the scene that have had to go and the ones left have taken pay cuts.
The team has been put together on paper and keeping it within budget, its not been together for a long time and hasn't got depth in quality like some others have. There's quite a few walking wounded that hasn't been mentioned by the club but looks like we have lost Ali to a knee injury, that's not going to be filled easily.
The stadium at Newmarket just isn't coming quick enough and for yrs Belle Vue has not had anything spent on it that wasn't needed, well this is the reason for the council coming down so hard on the club, its them that give the licence to allow the public to come and watch and hasn't had safety checks done for over 4 yr hence the pressure on the club.
I haven't had that much time to talk to Michael but I'm in constantly arranging work the Chris and finding in which is the most critical work that is stopping the increase in capacity, its not just barriers far from it, the more variety of trades helping the better, while we are still at Belle Vue they have a legally got to keep it up requirements and certain standards and boy have they slipped from previous yrs.
today I told Chris I was just about fed up with the club from what they have done in the past and like most couldn't take any more lies and financial slip ups, they have both come over sincere enough to gain my support as a fan of the club, the talks of the direction are more to do with stability than the game.
So back to the whinging and the poor team performances, which is no doubt not getting to the players, these are professionals but are still going to suffer from a string of defeats I wonder if the panic is going to set in at Huddersfield their only two points above us. Wish we would all stop thinking that we are a team to press for a top 8 play off position look at the league at present and it already an up hill climb.
One thing that I have learned is you have as bad as it seems got to finish on a positive than a negative you should know this, so while you all condemn the club and the players for past and present performance dire as it has been lately will you all stop singing Wakefield till I die because that is so hypocritical to sing and in the next breath say your not coming again, what do you think will happen reduced budget and more player sales.
your either in it for the long haul or not
this is not a rant it is what it is, your either want a club or not
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| Quote ="snowie"it quite understandable to moan especially after taking some serious defeats so lets break it all down.
another financial melt down nearly cost the club super league status in which from hrs of admin they have turned it around, while MC has been open enough for anyone to view the books it would about skim over most of our heads.
some of the stories I hear are so cringe worthy you just couldn't understand how it never imploded earlier.
There are staff behind the scene that have had to go and the ones left have taken pay cuts.
The team has been put together on paper and keeping it within budget, its not been together for a long time and hasn't got depth in quality like some others have. There's quite a few walking wounded that hasn't been mentioned by the club but looks like we have lost Ali to a knee injury, that's not going to be filled easily.
The stadium at Newmarket just isn't coming quick enough and for yrs Belle Vue has not had anything spent on it that wasn't needed, well this is the reason for the council coming down so hard on the club, its them that give the licence to allow the public to come and watch and hasn't had safety checks done for over 4 yr hence the pressure on the club.
I haven't had that much time to talk to Michael but I'm in constantly arranging work the Chris and finding in which is the most critical work that is stopping the increase in capacity, its not just barriers far from it, the more variety of trades helping the better, while we are still at Belle Vue they have a legally got to keep it up requirements and certain standards and boy have they slipped from previous yrs.
today I told Chris I was just about fed up with the club from what they have done in the past and like most couldn't take any more lies and financial slip ups, they have both come over sincere enough to gain my support as a fan of the club, the talks of the direction are more to do with stability than the game.
So back to the whinging and the poor team performances, which is no doubt not getting to the players, these are professionals but are still going to suffer from a string of defeats I wonder if the panic is going to set in at Huddersfield their only two points above us. Wish we would all stop thinking that we are a team to press for a top 8 play off position look at the league at present and it already an up hill climb.
One thing that I have learned is you have as bad as it seems got to finish on a positive than a negative you should know this, so while you all condemn the club and the players for past and present performance dire as it has been lately will you all stop singing Wakefield till I die because that is so hypocritical to sing and in the next breath say your not coming again, what do you think will happen reduced budget and more player sales.
your either in it for the long haul or not
this is not a rant it is what it is you either what a club or not'"
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| I don't think you can have an honest opinion if you didn't go to the game as I said it sounded as though Leeds were simply to good for us.Hell it happens in life when you give your heart and soul and are just outclassed.I was disgusted by the performance against HKR and I think we put more effort into the cup game than that one but still wasn't happy with the performance.Its ok to question but if you aint at the game how can you I asked Big lads mate how the game had gone last night and he said we were better and that the effort was better and that will do for me.As snowie says with the ground after years of neglect she is in a bit of a state but slowly but surely some of us are getting her up to a standard and I for one will tell you this club and its fans owe this bloke big style and I mean big style.
As much as I was upset with the performance against KR and the cup game it didn't stop me from going down and helping out even after being on nights and only getting a couple of hours kip.It didn't stop my lads getting stuck in one who has autism and one who is 10 all because they love this game and this club and not for reward.I will have a moan and groan about things and performances but thank heavens we still have a club to follow.
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| AGAR the problem that's all at the minute.Dull no motivation, no personality, no nothing.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"AGAR the problem that's all at the minute.Dull no motivation, no personality, no nothing.'"
Hhhhhhhhmmmmmmm sounds familiar?
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| I've worded this wrong. I was disgusted at the attitude of the first team coaching staff, no I didnt go and watch them but I listened to the commentary and although the scoreline wasnt as bad as last week it seemed that we were outclassed in every department, including effort.
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| Its not just Agar who is to blame..... the players need to step up yes the tactics are Agars department but the players are the ones who decide how committed they are going into a game but how many of them are just with us for the pay day?!!! they should be playing for the badge.
I do agree that it is time to change Agar but who for? lets be honest who could we attract?
There will not be an overnight quick fix and with Catalans looking impressive against Widnes they will be above us come Monday evening. Its going to be a long season ahead but I will be there cheering the club on no mater who is in the shirt and who is coach WTID
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