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| Driving to work this morning along Newmarket lane there was a lowloader dropping off a massive bulldozer, just where the gate is. Driving home, gate was open a couple of site cabins were up along with geezers in hi-viz hard hats etc milling around. First steps perhaps?, anyone know owt else?.
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| Quote ="Did you know?."Driving to work this morning along Newmarket lane there was a lowloader dropping off a massive bulldozer, just where the gate is. Driving home, gate was open a couple of site cabins were up along with geezers in hi-viz hard hats etc milling around. First steps perhaps?, anyone know owt else?.'" Give over more chance of our ground been built at Cas
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| I saw this, I was stuck in traffic for a few mins as they were struggling to deliver it
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| Quote ="hard team to follow"Give over more chance of our ground been built at Cas
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| Quote ="hard team to follow"Give over more chance of our ground been built at Cas
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| Well they did say ground work for the site would start in September.
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| As posted previously, Newcold are very keen on the site and to get things started as soon as both relevant permissions and practicalities allow. I suspect they may be doing some pre-emptive detailed site investigation work given this keenness to get building as soon as they can, but at this stage this is just an educated guess and not insider knowledge.
I bumped into the WTW Chairman Michael in Wakefield last Saturday night and was able to have a quick chat with him over a beer. He has already had some brief dialogue with all the formal parties involved to introduce himself and let them know that once he has a handle on currently more pressing matters, that he can start to get up to speed on Newmarket and then wants to focus on how everyone works together to move things forward positively and get the stadium built, irrespective of everything else. He knows that the long-term future of WTW most probably lies beyond the ageing old girl that is Belle Vue! That said, work has not stopped and he had some positive news of his own which I can't share with you at moment, but probably puts another good piece of the funding jigsaw in place.
I know the club faces many challenges at the moment but it is genuinely hard not to be positive about Newmarket at the moment, ok things have moved slightly slower than envisaged, but they are moving forward positively... despite what the doom-mongers on this and other forums would have you try and believe!
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"As posted previously, Newcold are very keen on the site and to get things started as soon as both relevant permissions and practicalities allow. I suspect they may be doing some pre-emptive detailed site investigation work given this keenness to get building as soon as they can, but at this stage this is just an educated guess and not insider knowledge.
I bumped into the WTW Chairman Michael in Wakefield last Saturday night and was able to have a quick chat with him over a beer. He has already had some brief dialogue with all the formal parties involved to introduce himself and let them know that once he has a handle on currently more pressing matters, that he can start to get up to speed on Newmarket and then wants to focus on how everyone works together to move things forward positively and get the stadium built, irrespective of everything else. He knows that the long-term future of WTW most probably lies beyond the ageing old girl that is Belle Vue! That said, work has not stopped and he had some positive news of his own which I can't share with you at moment, but probably puts another good piece of the funding jigsaw in place.
I know the club faces many challenges at the moment but it is genuinely hard not to be positive about Newmarket at the moment, ok things have moved slightly slower than envisaged, but they are moving forward positively... despite what the doom-mongers on this and other forums would have you try and believe!'"
Thanks for the update.
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"As posted previously, Newcold are very keen on the site and to get things started as soon as both relevant permissions and practicalities allow. I suspect they may be doing some pre-emptive detailed site investigation work given this keenness to get building as soon as they can, but at this stage this is just an educated guess and not insider knowledge.
I bumped into the WTW Chairman Michael in Wakefield last Saturday night and was able to have a quick chat with him over a beer. He has already had some brief dialogue with all the formal parties involved to introduce himself and let them know that once he has a handle on currently more pressing matters, that he can start to get up to speed on Newmarket and then wants to focus on how everyone works together to move things forward positively and get the stadium built, irrespective of everything else. He knows that the long-term future of WTW most probably lies beyond[u the ageing old girl that is Belle Vue![/u That said, work has not stopped and he had some positive news of his own which I can't share with you at moment, but probably puts another good piece of the funding jigsaw in place.
I know the club faces many challenges at the moment but it is genuinely hard not to be positive about Newmarket at the moment, ok things have moved slightly slower than envisaged, but they are moving forward positively... despite what the doom-mongers on this and other forums would have you try and believe!'"
How dare you refer you refer to a lady in those terms!
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Ok, good news everyone!
As I mentioned at the Supporters Trust meeting the Newcold application is to go before the WMDC Planning Committee this coming Thursday 26th September at 10.30am in the Council Chamber in County Hall. The agenda pack for the meeting has now been uploaded to the website and it is the good news we expected.
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mg.wakefield.gov.uk/documents/s53734/260913.pdf[/url
Quote CONCLUSION
The proposal has been fully assessed against national and local planning policy guidance. Careful consideration has been given to all material planning considerations and in particular the visual impact of the development, the loss of landscaping, highways and noise issues.
The proposed building is in line with the Site Specific Policies Local Plan and will contribute towards bringing forward part of the B8 allocated for the site. The proposal will generate 154 jobs would benefit the district in terms of the long term economic gain. The proposed access road will enable other developments permitted within the outline consent to be delivered which will facilitate the delivery of further jobs and opportunities for investment.
The proposal would not prejudice the delivery of the remainder of the outline permission or
the community stadium. The application as submitted would contribute to moving forward the possible construction of the community stadium as it delivers part of the access road and infrastructure which is not presently available and is required if the stadium is to be constructed.
It is acknowledged that the proposal will have an impact in terms of visual amenity by virtue of the size of the building. The LVIA acknowledges that there are potential impacts on landscape character which are moderate adverse however there are none recorded as critical adverse and it is considered through appropriate mitigation in the form of maintaining the majority of established trees within the site as well as the planting of woodland trees and hedgerow that the impact of the proposal would be reduced.
In conclusion it is considered that the economic benefits and job creation through the development would outweigh the landscape and visual impact. The proposed development is on a site which has been specifically allocated for the type of use proposed. This has to be considered alongside the fact that the proposed development will be the first phase of a wider employment allocation and that it delivers infrastructure (including the road improvements allocation) which facilitate the delivery of the remainder of the site. Subject to the imposition of planning conditions the proposal is acceptable when assessed against national and local planning policy and therefore conditional approval of planning permission is recommended.'"
We understand they want to get started on-site as soon as possible!
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Ok, good news everyone!
As I mentioned at the Supporters Trust meeting the Newcold application is to go before the WMDC Planning Committee this coming Thursday 26th September at 10.30am in the Council Chamber in County Hall. The agenda pack for the meeting has now been uploaded to the website and it is the good news we expected.
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mg.wakefield.gov.uk/documents/s53734/260913.pdf[/url
Quote CONCLUSION
The proposal has been fully assessed against national and local planning policy guidance. Careful consideration has been given to all material planning considerations and in particular the visual impact of the development, the loss of landscaping, highways and noise issues.
The proposed building is in line with the Site Specific Policies Local Plan and will contribute towards bringing forward part of the B8 allocated for the site. The proposal will generate 154 jobs would benefit the district in terms of the long term economic gain. The proposed access road will enable other developments permitted within the outline consent to be delivered which will facilitate the delivery of further jobs and opportunities for investment.
The proposal would not prejudice the delivery of the remainder of the outline permission or
the community stadium. The application as submitted would contribute to moving forward the possible construction of the community stadium as it delivers part of the access road and infrastructure which is not presently available and is required if the stadium is to be constructed.
It is acknowledged that the proposal will have an impact in terms of visual amenity by virtue of the size of the building. The LVIA acknowledges that there are potential impacts on landscape character which are moderate adverse however there are none recorded as critical adverse and it is considered through appropriate mitigation in the form of maintaining the majority of established trees within the site as well as the planting of woodland trees and hedgerow that the impact of the proposal would be reduced.
In conclusion it is considered that the economic benefits and job creation through the development would outweigh the landscape and visual impact. The proposed development is on a site which has been specifically allocated for the type of use proposed. This has to be considered alongside the fact that the proposed development will be the first phase of a wider employment allocation and that it delivers infrastructure (including the road improvements allocation) which facilitate the delivery of the remainder of the site. Subject to the imposition of planning conditions the proposal is acceptable when assessed against national and local planning policy and therefore conditional approval of planning permission is recommended.'"
We understand they want to get started on-site as soon as possible!
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| BTW - Interestingly there were only two letters of objection received!
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"BTW - Interestingly there were only two letters of objection received!'"
Let me guess that fender woman and bigalf?
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Let me guess that fender woman and bigalf?'"
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| Tricky Dicky and Leeds council?
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| A ray of sunshine in the middle of a hurricane!
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Let me guess that fender woman and bigalf?'"
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| An excellent end to a strange old week.
Cant wait to see the bulldozers moving in
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| Excellent news and an important for the future of our club and sport in the City. Was our chairman was meeting Mr Walker today hope it was a positive meeting
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Let me guess that fender woman and bigalf?'"
No, no objection from June Fender or bigalf/alcasfan... one from a twitter nemesis of mine (well objection is a little loose... it was a bit of a rant really) and one from a guy I have never heard of, but at least it was a structured objection.
Their details are public record for anyone really that interested, so I don't think we need to post them here.
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| Quote 1. No more than 60,000m2
of the B8 development shall be occupied unless and until the
stadium is completed to its design capacity of 12,000 so as to be capable of staging a
Rugby Super League match attended by the public and the stadium and its ancillary
elements have received all necessary safety and other certificates to allow it to be used for
that purpose'"
Probably been mentioned hundreds of times before but just read on this on the planning website and wondering how big is the coldstore going to be?
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| Quote The community stadium has all matters approved including access to facilitate the stadium.
There is the requirement for significant highway works which would include duelling the
roadway leading to the stadium. The application for the cold storage unit does not require
this level of road to be provided however it would not build on land that would be required for
the highway works'"
and any idea what this means? The stadium requires a dual carriageway but the cold store only single, but this doesnt matter because the cold store isnt building all the roads for the development? confused..
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| It means the stadium isn't starting yet.. Until all the boxes are ticked and all the funding is in place is my guess
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| Quote ="Wakefield No 1"Probably been mentioned hundreds of times before but just read on this on the planning website and wondering how big is the coldstore going to be?'"
The proposed gross floor area is just short of 39,000 sq. m. So only another 21,000 sq. m could be built & occupied before the stadium build would be compelled to be built, until more of the site could then be developed. Equally, this does not necessarily mean that another 21k sq. m HAS to be built to trigger the stadium build.
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| Quote ="Wakefield No 1"and any idea what this means? The stadium requires a dual carriageway but the cold store only single, but this doesnt matter because the cold store isnt building all the roads for the development? confused..'"
The whole site development, so stadium complex, B1, B2, B8 etc requires a new signal controlled junction to Aberford Road & the new access road, that will ultimately replace & join back up with Newmarket Lane beyond the development. As part of the the Newcold planning application they will have to build the new road junction & this will have to be built now & will have to be built to a capacity/standard to suit the whole development.
They will also have to build the access road as far as their development site, for obvious reasons, which lies beyond the stadium site. As such, the first stretch of this road will ultimately serve as the stadium access road & this stretch of road will have to be a dual carriageway to create suitable match day access & egress capacity. However, unlike the road junction, the planners can not compel Newcold to effectively build this stretch of road by way of imposing a planning condition now because they simply don't need it for their development. That all said, while the current planning application only shows a single carriageway road, that equally does not mean that the first section of road might still get built as a dual carriageway straight away, just that it is not a planning requirement to do so!
We don't know at the moment what will get built in respect of the road until we are a bit further down the line, but if only a single carriageway section is built initially, it will have to be built so it can be turned into so dual carriageway easily afterwards, but this will need doing for the stadium.
It is just planning condition stuff, so don't get too hung up on it for the moment. They are still building a massive part of what is required for the stadium site.
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| Thank you I.A, very kind of you to answer so comprehensively
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