last week at saints when cunningham went over davey to score i saw jd walking away shaking his head. tonight i saw jd shouting and carrying on from the first 10 mins . is it time for a rest maybe? is age catching up?
i don't see much encouragement from the captain whereas brough, bj and morrison are very supportive to the younger one's.

shoot me down but it is only a thought.

I have just logged on and seen the score



As per the coaches comments below, there is no room for encouragment

when you know the boys are not switched on.

=#BF0040Edit - please use links rather than cut and paste! - TRB

please post the link because was unable to see the interview due to being somewhere that i wish i wasn't! kids were cold too.

news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 545360.stm www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... uotes.html "After the first 30 seconds you could sense something was not right. Our energy levels looked down. "It came out of the blue. It was very disappointing, very inept. Perhaps the players believed their own publicity a little too much. "Huddersfield were very slick, very focused and very intense - everything we didn't do they did, and they did it very well."

news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 545360.stm www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... uotes.html "After the first 30 seconds you could sense something was not right. Our energy levels looked down. "It came out of the blue. It was very disappointing, very inept. Perhaps the players believed their own publicity a little too much. "Huddersfield were very slick, very focused and very intense - everything we didn't do they did, and they did it very well."

thanks for that..wonder if the players are in for a debrief tomorrow..heres hoping hkr is better

Think Brough was the invisible man BJ to be fair took a knock early on and was a passenger
JD is a centre who is too old and too slow to play centre and has moved into the pack where he just can’t cut it at SL level a great servant to Trinity but time to move on Jason a phone call to the March twins would be about right

Brough seemed to have a right go at Morton after nearly every try. Noticed he didn't have a go at Moore when his lost ball led to a try!

i can understand folk on here knocking JD s form as the standards over the years as been very good but to question the mans attitude IMHO is just plain bonkers

Thought i would give this thread a miss but can't help myself, i have seen this a few times from Broughy this season to be fair to him but overall your having a a laugh mate.

Sometimes players need a telling off, if they have the players respect then its not a problem.

JD doesn't look fit to me. Not sure if he's still finding fitness after the off season or struggling to get going but he doesn't seem the same thus far.

Re the Captain situation JD's never really been much of a talker. He leads more by example, but that said I was very disappointed to see him walking aroung with his head down when he should have been gathering the troops.

I have trust and faith that JD will come good but at the moment something doesn't quite seem right with the lad.

IN my honest oppinion jd is long in the tooth and should have gone last year hes been carried by the club now

I've been very strong at times with my criticism of JD, but I have never accused him of giving everything in him on the pitch. He's been a great servant to the club and will live long in our memories once he hangs up his boots.

BUT....

His attitude on the pitch as captain is a lot different. The shouting behind the sticks against the Giants is something that could have been useful in countless games over the last couple of seasons - but one of the few (if not the only) times he does it is when we're in the middle of such a shocking performance when the game has already been lost. WHAT'S THE POINT IN THAT???!!!

IMHO he's only getting his place in the 17 because JK says he'll be captain for however long they're both at Trinity. JD does add great value as a squad player to provide back up to a first choice 17 - he just isn't the player he was & shouldn't be the first name on the team sheet any longer if the whole squad is fully fit.

I said it before the season started & I'll say it again now - Tesco should be captain & the first choice back 3 should be Tesco, Fergy & Johnson. Hendo has been putting in some great performances so far this year and he can fill the bench with 2 props (that's TWO PROPS Mr Kear!!!) and a hooker/half-back. JD comes into the reckoning when we have injuries to the back row, but ONLY when we injuries.

Yeah like when Johnson & King are injured

Cant go along with the theory that JD is past it. Every player bar none had a pityful performance (bar Richard Moore). JD is a quality player.

you dont think Morrison tried then?

I don't buy in to this jd bad attitude thing. I don't think anyone can question his attitude after what the man has done for this club and also the Adam watene fund. He may not be in the best of form but hopefully this will be temporary. It will sum the man up if he goes out on Friday and plays a blinder

No he's played badly sack the guy

fans go on about respect and loyalty and then turn after a bad game.



to them all.

Quite right Al.

What we've got is what we've got. Apart from Davey we had every man standing play in that game last week - and they ALL contributed to a poor performance. There were several who tried really hard but nothing came off, there were some who, on reflection, may well think they could have put more in; pretty much all of them seemed low in energy levels, which may be something to do with the training regime etc... who knows.

What we do know is that, with the exception of a couple or so forced changes, the same players will take the field on Friday. I boo'd them on Saturday - as I thought their performance was unprofessional and lacked respect for the paying public, and because we know they can play so much better. But it will be business as usual this week and I expect them to do everything they can to put right the wrongs - although I'm not sure we can do all that in one week.

Players shouldn't get picked for that reason though, not if they are unfit/out-of-form/whatever is up with him.

and equally players shouldn't be dropped when they have outstanding service and then have one bad game.

Too true PT.

Loyalty and respect have to work both ways even if some like to quote it "when it suits"

Not slagging JD cos I like him a lot, but his form has been tepid all season (i know its only 5 games old

) But I just think he needs a rest, and his form will return....

Trouble is for JK, he has nobody to replace him with unless he fetch's young Trout into the second row and plays Tesco/Hendo/Latu at loose? People should remember also that for a reasonable chunk of Saturday's game JD was being played as 'a running 6' after BJ went off, which is not his natural position by any stretch......and possibly affected his defensive positioning at times