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| Anybody else notice the article in the Express about the Local Authority lending Wakefield and Cas land in order to to be in a position to raise money
It goes on to state that the land will be discussed in privateby the Councils Cabinet on Tuesday.
Land to be held in trust with a caveat that the clubs cannot sell but can use it to raise funds. Theissue is being discussed urgently according to denise Jefferies in order SL franchises criteria can be complied with.
Reading the article its in line with comments from Wakefield but totally out of sinc with Cas and Waystone if you read the article.
There clearly needs to be some transparency here
Whats it about and who owns waht land its clearly no where near as cut and dried as some owould let us believe
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"<snip>'"
Thread merged. You may find some of the answers you're looking for in Bellycouldtackle's post, RW&B.
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| Quote ="snowie"icon_confused.gif can you explain why you should put a link to the same thread we are reading, I'm a bit baffled with that one is there some joke there as its whoooshed over my head
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It was a separate thread before, but now has been merged with this topic.
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| Quote ="Fully"It was a separate thread before, but now has been merged with this topic.'" I see ![Smile icon_smile.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_smile.gif)
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"Thread merged. You may find some of the answers you're looking for in Bellycouldtackle's post, RW&B.'"
Ta for that didn't see it
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| Quote ="snowie"I see
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"Blonde moment?
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"The land refered to is not the land that will be built on. It is land that is owned by the council it will given by the council to a trust ( wakefield community trust ) . The trust are then able to borrow money against the land and that money is then used to finance the building of the stadium.
So you end up with the stadium builders / developers able to be paid, and the stadium owned by the community trust. The Rugby club then rent as the stadium from the Trust.
The council will be seen to have done their bit and it will not have cost the taxpayer a penny. The council owns vast sways of land, much of which will never be developed because they cannot afford to develope it. This way all parties are happy.
Our trust is headed by Rodney Walker etc etc.
I do not know who the cas community trust are.'"
Its a bit like your mum n dad guaranteeing a loan you.
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| Any news from todays meeting? All the rumours I keep hearing are very positive and the stadium is at a more advanced stage than alot of people realise, just looking forward to some official announcements
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We have another thread running re the pool in Wakefield and I suppose this thread should be linked.
On the subject of land. As far as I am aware WMDC have also pledged land at the same meeting to go to The Wakefield stadium.
One club shouts it from the roof tops the other keeps the good news quiet.
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We have another thread running re the pool in Wakefield and I suppose this thread should be linked.
On the subject of land. As far as I am aware WMDC have also pledged land at the same meeting to go to The Wakefield stadium.
One club shouts it from the roof tops the other keeps the good news quiet.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"We have another thread running re the pool in Wakefield and I suppose this thread should be linked.
On the subject of land. As far as I am aware WMDC have also pledged land at the same meeting to go to The Wakefield stadium.
One club shouts it from the roof tops the other keeps the good news quiet.'"
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"We have another thread running re the pool in Wakefield and I suppose this thread should be linked.
On the subject of land. As far as I am aware WMDC have also pledged land at the same meeting to go to The Wakefield stadium.
One club shouts it from the roof tops the other keeps the good news quiet.'"
Confusious say
[iHe who has goods to sell,
And whistles down a well,
Don't make as many dollars,
As him who climbs a tree and hollers [/i
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"One club shouts it from the roof tops the other keeps the good news quiet.'"
Why is that? Are we media-savvy enough to get the right messages out there?
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| Quote ="The Happy Hooker"
Confusious say
[iHe who has goods to sell,
And whistles down a well,
Don't make as many dollars,
As him who climbs a tree and hollers [/i'"
Which would be relevant,apart from the fact that neither club can actually sell the land.
They can only use it as an asset to improve their balance sheet,thus improving their chances of lending money.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"We have another thread running re the pool in Wakefield and I suppose this thread should be linked.
On the subject of land. As far as I am aware WMDC have also pledged land at the same meeting to go to The Wakefield stadium.
One club shouts it from the roof tops the other keeps the good news quiet.'" will anything be mentioned on friday ? as we are on sky
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| Turfedout, the council are not giving the land to the Rugby clubs. They are giving it the the community trusts. Wakefield Community Trust is up and running, headed by Rodney Walker and others. Cas are setting up the Cas community trust I think Ivette Copper is involved.
So the Rugby clubs will not own the land and therefore it is not an asset of the Rugby clubs and the rugby clubs do not incur debt.
The land is been given to the respective Community trusts, it is they who borrow the money against the land and it is they who get the grants and they build and own the new stadiums. The stadiums are then community stadiums, the rugby clubs rent the stadiums from the Community trusts.
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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT"Which would be relevant,apart from the fact that neither club can actually sell the land.
They can only use it as an asset to improve their balance sheet,thus improving their chances of lending money.'"
TBH I think he was being metaphorical in a jokey sort of way.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"Turfedout, the council are not giving the land to the Rugby clubs. They are giving it the the community trusts. Wakefield Community Trust is up and running, headed by Rodney Walker and others. Cas are setting up the Cas community trust I think Ivette Copper is involved.
So the Rugby clubs will not own the land and therefore it is not an asset of the Rugby clubs and the rugby clubs do not incur debt.
The land is been given to the respective Community trusts, it is they who borrow the money against the land and it is they who get the grants and they build and own the new stadiums. The stadiums are then community stadiums, the rugby clubs rent the stadiums from the Community trusts.'"
Fine,it was the fact that whoever is getting the land,they cant actually sell it.
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| Quote ="Georgie Best on a Bloomer"TBH I think he was being metaphorical in a jokey sort of way.'"
Well blow me off,never!!!!!!!
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"Why is that? Are we media-savvy enough to get the right messages out there?'"
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| I wonder when the offical announcement will be announced by the community trust? I suppose it is up to them not the club as its a community trust stadium not Trinitys. Were the council in talks with trinity or the community trust I'm confused
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"Turfedout, the council are not giving the land to the Rugby clubs. They are giving it the the community trusts. Wakefield Community Trust is up and running, headed by Rodney Walker and others. Cas are setting up the Cas community trust I think Ivette Copper is involved.
So the Rugby clubs will not own the land and therefore it is not an asset of the Rugby clubs and the rugby clubs do not incur debt.
The land is been given to the respective Community trusts, it is they who borrow the money against the land and it is they who get the grants and they build and own the new stadiums. The stadiums are then community stadiums, the rugby clubs rent the stadiums from the Community trusts.'"
Ours is obviously community based, wheras Cas is part funded by the sale of their ground, i would imagine they will have a greater say and higher income stream than we will have. I understand that a partnership between Waystone, WMDC and Cas have formed a stadium company.
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