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| You possess a rare gift knowing what went on and that he was only employed in an advisory capacity so could not inform them of the position of the company despite actually being the accountant. I would suggest you use this rare gift for good by predicting next weeks lottery numbers.
I have yet to come across an accountant who did not know what was going on financially in a company.
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| Thought this thread was about Mellars. Yet again you've hijacked it with 'bash the chairman' move on or move off here please
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| The thread deviated from the post by El Rey which I agreed with. I guess you do not have an answer either as to why no one questioned his association with the previous board. I am accused for continually not criticising the previous board but to do so like some of you have is also to criticise our current chairman. This means you have probably had a go at him more than I have so are you going to leave the forum.
I am bored now so goodnight.
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| You are such a bore, either get behind the club or put up some answers.
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| The term 'hidden agenda' couldn't be further from the truth could it?
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| Quote ="inside man"Hidden?'"
Exactly. Not even remotely trying to hide it is he?!
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| back to mellars.....he is going back to Australia with a pay off......where the hell that is going to come from god only knows
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| Quote ="quinny"back to mellars.....he is going back to Australia with a pay off......where the hell that is going to come from god only knows'"
We'll just flog another player, who wants to be competitive anyway?
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| Quote ="inside man"You are such a bore, either get behind the club or put up some answers.'"
He thought he had the answers. Thats why we are where we are!
AG was advised many times that we couldnt sustain the club with the way we were spending. Ego and a buried head in the sand made him believe otherwise.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"We'll just flog another player, who wants to be competitive anyway?'"
Thanks for that Eeyore!
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| The simplistic way to look at it is this agent X111 asked question a numbers of people ridicule this ....revert to name calling and miss the point of the argument.
Nothing done in the last three months to put to us the fans what we can do ?
only the simple idiotic " if you don't buy season tickets I will sell mantra".
No structure on what we would be investing in !
A lot of the questions put on this forum not answered and if submitted to the club ignored.
hardly a recipe for confidence.
We have had Elston and Glover leave but not under a shadow ..a glowing tribute! if you look at the press releases the club put out?
Yet if you believe what the posters, and general opinion on here are saying and messages coming out of the club how can that be the honest approach,
that the club would have us believe it is now portraying?
I think most people come on with good faith to try and be constructive and have the club at the forefront of their minds but when will we get to a base starting point for us to begin the rebuild both the team and the perception of where we are going with our club?
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| As it been confirmed or denied Mellor’s as gone , Poore as agreed to join Hull KR , Aiton is on his way to Leeds ,Kaye as gone to one of a few championship clubs , Smith is going to Newcastle RU .It seems to me (if opinions are still allowed on this forum without fear of been ridiculed) that K/H as taken control of the player recruitment / retention business of the club . Those on contracts she sees as not value for money are being sold or paid off. Although I agree that something needed to be done its very strange with training due to start that only D Smith has been recruited , I hope it’s not a build up to us been told there is no alternative to us becoming the Rhinos Dual Reg Club.,
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| Quote ="factsareus"The simplistic way to look at it is this agent X111 asked question a numbers of people ridicule this ....revert to name calling and miss the point of the argument.
Nothing done in the last three months to put to us the fans what we can do ?
only the simple idiotic " if you don't buy season tickets I will sell mantra".
No structure on what we would be investing in !
A lot of the questions put on this forum not answered and if submitted to the club ignored.
hardly a recipe for confidence.
We have had Elston and Glover leave but not under a shadow ..a glowing tribute! if you look at the press releases the club put out?
Yet if you believe what the posters, and general opinion on here are saying and messages coming out of the club how can that be the honest approach,
that the club would have us believe it is now portraying?
I think most people come on with good faith to try and be constructive and have the club at the forefront of their minds but when will we get to a base starting point for us to begin the rebuild both the team and the perception of where we are going with our club?'"
I tend to agree with most of your post, but, if Agentx111 was asking these questions in a pub I'd probably agree with most of his sentiments, but we aren't in a pub, we're on an open forum, we need as much positive publicity as possible, posting negatives all of the time does bring negativity with it, I'd prefer more positives if at all possible, it's sometimes best not to reply to some posts I find just so I'm not expanding the negatives.
If that makes sense!
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| So on one side weve got posters telling us the chairman is being too open and on the other we have posters saying he's not being forthright with the current situation at the club. Who'd want to control this basket case of a club, let alone put their house on the line for it?
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| Quote ="victarmeldrew"As it been confirmed or denied Mellor’s as gone , Poore as agreed to join Hull KR , Aiton is on his way to Leeds ,Kaye as gone to one of a few championship clubs , Smith is going to Newcastle RU .It seems to me (if opinions are still allowed on this forum without fear of been ridiculed) that K/H as taken control of the player recruitment / retention business of the club . Those on contracts she sees as not value for money are being sold or paid off. Although I agree that something needed to be done its very strange with training due to start that only D Smith has been recruited , I hope it’s not a build up to us been told there is no alternative to us becoming the Rhinos Dual Reg Club.,'"
I agree with every announcement that a top drawer player like Aiton/Poore/Lee Smith has been sold then there must be a bargain basement value type recruit coming the other way and being signed to not deflate the fans anymore than they already are and to keep the season ticket sales ticking over.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"So on one side weve got posters telling us the chairman is being too open and on the other we have posters saying he's not being forthright with the current situation at the club. Who'd want to control this basket case of a club, let alone put their house on the line for it?'"
Its far from a basket case.
The club has SKY income to look forward to for the next 12 months at least and although the exact figure is not known
its most likely to be around £1M.
There will be gate money, match day income and sponsorship for a further full season. If we get relegated there will also be a parachute payment.
Although there are various outgoings, by far the greatest costs will be players wages. We are reducing them at a brisk rate and looking forward we could already be past a break even point. Reduce the wages even more and the club could make a tidy profit.
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| Quote ="JINJER"I tend to agree with most of your post, but, if Agentx111 was asking these questions in a pub I'd probably agree with most of his sentiments, but we aren't in a pub, we're on an open forum, we need as much positive publicity as possible, posting negatives all of the time does bring negativity with it, I'd prefer more positives if at all possible, it's sometimes best not to reply to some posts I find just so I'm not expanding the negatives.
If that makes sense!
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Personally i'd just prefer the truth, no matter how ugly it may be. The BS strategy of the last lot didn't do us any favours at all and for many the feeling of having been lied to has done way more damage than just being honest and open about things.
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| Quote ="jack in the box"Its far from a basket case.
The club has SKY income to look forward to for the next 12 months at least and although the exact figure is not known
its most likely to be around £1M.
There will be gate money, match day income and sponsorship for a further full season. If we get relegated there will also be a parachute payment.
Although there are various outgoings, by far the greatest costs will be players wages. We are reducing them at a brisk rate and looking forward we could already be past a break even point. Reduce the wages even more and the club could make a tidy profit.'"
You're absolutely right! Ignoring the potential threat of relegation for the bottom two, which looks less and less likely to materialise given the hash the RFL have made of the whole process, we could end up in a decent 'rebuilding' position.
The club perhaps need to start talking about it in the way that you have, to get a bit of positivity out there amongst potential commercial partners and fans.
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| I may be wrong ,but as someone hinted on here, and I feared weeks ago, can't see a queue of players waiting for Wakefield to say right were ready to sign you ,Leeds feeder team we'll be and as I said and plenty more if that happens will say the same won't be watching them , don't give me that rubbish about supporting owt in the red white and blue
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| If we were at 1.3 SC last year then with these off the wage bill:
SMITH
MORIANO
AITON
KAYE
WILDIE
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surely we should be under the this years salary cap budget by some decent amount.
there's over 300k right there.
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| Quote ="try scorer"I may be wrong ,but as someone hinted on here, and I feared weeks ago, can't see a queue of players waiting for Wakefield to say right were ready to sign you ,Leeds feeder team we'll be and as I said and plenty more if that happens will say the same won't be watching them , don't give me that rubbish about supporting owt in the red white and blue'"
If being a Leeds feeder team keeps us up while we rebuild, then so be it. I will support anyone giving their best in RW and B next season.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"If we were at 1.3 SC last year then with these off the wage bill:
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surely we should be under the this years salary cap budget by some decent amount.
there's over 300k right there.'"
Depends whether our contracted players have built in yearly rises or were given back-loaded contracts as a temptation to sign a longer deal.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"If we were at 1.3 SC last year then with these off the wage bill:
SMITH
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WILKES
surely we should be under the this years salary cap budget by some decent amount.
there's over 300k right there.'"
Lets face it none of us would be surprised if
LEE SMITH
BEN COCKAYNE
JUSTIN POORE
were about to be added to that list in the very near future.
Like I said on another thread that would probably leave us looking like one of the most financially viable SL clubs on paper.
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| That's just the attitude I can't stand sandel ,I'll support rubbish if its our rubbish we'll get players who couldn't keep hunslet in the champlonship ,every one to their own, thankfully I'll be watching Stanley lads playing for stanley
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