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| RDM care to enlighten us who tillion is or don't you know
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| Quote ="Uptoncat"Nicely swept under the carpet. I don't believe you'"
I'm not sweeping anything under the carpet & can understand why emotions may cloud opinions on something that at face value appears to be Ted twisting the knife in the back of the club and all supporters.
Am I pi$$ed off at how the actual circumstances appear to be? Hell yes!!!
Do the circumstances of the ownership actually change the club's financial plight? Not one bit. As I said, the bank wouldn't have supported a loan to buy back the ground & in any case the value of the land would have fallen to the extent that the bank probably wouldn't have provided the same level of funding as the club got in the first place if they had been interested in providing a loan to the club.
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| Quote ="jack in the box"RDM care to enlighten us who tillion is or don't you know'"
All I know is what's been posted on here already - that it's a company registered in the IoM.
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| Quote ="charlie"So Ted sold it to Ted?'"
And he didnt pay
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| I'm sorry rdm but you have far too much info for me not to be involved. If you are who I and many others think you are thank you for your efforts you were part of the team that got us to sl, you kept us up there but now you've nearly killed us off. Take the highs and the lows and if you've honestly given it your all walk away with your head held high. If you've been hiding things and covering up hang your head in shame
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| Quote ="RDM"I'm not sweeping anything under the carpet & can understand why emotions may cloud opinions on something that at face value appears to be Ted twisting the knife in the back of the club and all supporters.
Am I pi$$ed off at how the actual circumstances appear to be? Hell yes!!!
Do the circumstances of the ownership actually change the club's financial plight? Not one bit. As I said, the bank wouldn't have supported a loan to buy back the ground & in any case the value of the land would have fallen to the extent that the bank probably wouldn't have provided the same level of funding as the club got in the first place if they had been interested in providing a loan to the club.'"
The reason the club is basically shafted is that it did a deal with tillion and tillion has failed to pay up.
all this other stuff has nothing to do with it.
I'll ask you again who is tillion
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| Quote ="kinleycat"could you elaborate, how did you see said contract and how do you know about the money being received?'"
As part of my job at the time.
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| It looks like WTRLFC have a contract with Tillion. What Tillion do with Cala or Yorkcourt is of no concern. Tillion should pay up the balance of the 2.8 million ( what ever that ammount is ) as per the terms of the contact with Wtrlfc If Tillion are in breach of contract then WTRLFC should just have sued them. As it stands I presume that Tillion will still own the ground all be it with charges on it from their lender etc.
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| Quote ="charlie"www.linleyandsimpson.co.uk/index.php?page=news_wakefield.html
Near the bottom there's a little article; "The club, along with Cala Management and Tillion Partnership"'"
Quote A statement from the Wildcats, tenants for the proposed stadium, said: "We have taken steps to apply for full planning permission for housing on Belle Vue, enhancing its current outline permission. This move will reinforce the club's Super League licence application in areas of financial strength and stability. The club will continue to work with the local authority to pursue aspirations for a new community stadium"'"
Just catching up on all this and commenting page by page..
But could it be that WTWRLFC actually paid for planning permission and any work on the site so that a certain TED didn't have to when his company took control of the site...
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| Ted as chairman of wtw will not sue his company for money owed to himself.
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| RDM if Tillion paid up the £ 2,800,000 then we would not be in the mess we find ourselves in. I just cannot get my head round why we have not started proceedings against Tillion. They must owe us over a million pounds.
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| why havnt WTW SUED TILLION
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| Quote ="Uptoncat"Ted as chairman of wtw will not sue his company for money owed to himself.'"
An administrator would though, hence the urgency from the BOD to raise the funds to stop this from happening?
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| I think someone had robbed Peter to pay Paul three times over then got his wires crossed and robbed Paul to pay Peter. Paul then got mad and her we are
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| Quote ="RDM"As part of my job at the time.'"
The club should be careful where it does its business deals, anybody could be watching in Burger King.
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| Quote ="wakeytom"An administrator would though, hence the urgency from the BOD to raise the funds to stop this from happening?'"
Luckily only 20 people were silly enough to buy the sob story
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| Quote ="rugbyball"The club should be careful where it does its business deals, anybody could be watching in Burger King.'"
I didn't used to like you but icon_smile.gificon_smile.gificon_smile.gif
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| The Trust has noted with interest the discussion on RLFans.com relating to the ownership of Belle Vue. The issue will be discussed amongst the working party and we will attempt to clarify the issue as much as we can.
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| Quote ="Uptoncat"I'm sorry rdm but you have far too much info for me not to be involved. If you are who I and many others think you are thank you for your efforts you were part of the team that got us to sl, you kept us up there but now you've nearly killed us off. Take the highs and the lows and if you've honestly given it your all walk away with your head held high. If you've been hiding things and covering up hang your head in shame'"
Do you really think that if I'm as involved with the club as you suggest, that I couldn't have arranged for JD to be sold 2 years ago when IMO he could have been replaced by plenty of other players?
My long term invovlement with the club has been from the terraces only and as holder of £100 worth of shares for the last few years.
As for the amount of information I have - I simply asked questions to the club as a shareholder. I took the answers at face value as I had no evidence to suggest that I wasn't being told the truth. Even now, I know that the member of the BoD I spoke to didn't tell me any lies - but in light of what's been posted on this thread perhaps they weren't completely open with me either.
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| Quote ="Uptoncat"Luckily only 20 people were silly enough to buy the sob story'"
And I wasn't one of them
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| Quote ="Uptoncat"I think someone had robbed Peter to pay Paul three times over then got his wires crossed and robbed Paul to pay Peter. Paul then got mad and her we are
'" I used to work for a company in leeds that had another company with dealings that fetched in income and business for the directors of the main company,
very shifty
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| I wonder if I'm the only one trying to work out what 'Tillion' stands for…
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| Ask how much money Tillion still owe on the contract, why the BOD did not sue Tillion and how much rent are WTRLFC paying to Tillion.
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