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| If the trigger point will have been passed then, regarding the developed areas, there are reasons to be positive.
Just the funding.
Keep positive, keep fighting, keep believing
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"If the trigger point will have been passed then, regarding the developed areas, there are reasons to be positive.
Just the funding.
Keep positive, keep fighting, keep believing'"
But isn't the agreement that Yorkcourt will build the community stadium once the trigger point is reached - funded by them?
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| As far as I'm aware, yes it is.
Lets just hope that they are true to their word
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"If the trigger point will have been passed then, regarding the developed areas, there are reasons to be positive.
Just the funding.
Keep positive, keep fighting, keep believing'"
As was mentioned in the last thread Kev referred to the Newcold build is listed at around 38,000sqm. So the Clarks development wouldn't quite take it passed the trigger mark.
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"As far as I'm aware, yes it is.
Lets just hope that they are true to their word'"
Yeah well I'll second that one!
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| If nothing else, I doubt there is a group of rugby supporters in the country better versed in aspects of planning law than us. Graduates have studied for less time than us.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"As was mentioned in the last thread Kev referred to the Newcold build is listed at around 38,000sqm. So the Clarks development wouldn't quite take it passed the trigger mark.'"
Does that this take into account both the existing and under construction parts of newcold?
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"If nothing else, I doubt there is a group of rugby supporters in the country better versed in aspects of planning law than us. Graduates have studied for less time than us.'"
Especially the ones that work at Wakefield Council!
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Does that this take into account both the existing and under construction parts of newcold?'"
Yep, first part was around 21000msq from memory, the second is apparently slightly less.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Does that this take into account both the existing and under construction parts of newcold?'"
That's what I was working on Kinley,
The first Newcold was around 23,000 m² and the second one was projected to be slightly bigger there for around 50,000 m² in total
If the Clarks Brewery distribution centre is as big as mentioned then it will take the total to around 80,000 m² which is approximately 20,000 m² beyond the trigger point
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| We enquired about the Newcold site early last year but they prices were not competitive enough, BUT I have asked them again and we are going to be enquiring again maybe around September to see if there prices are much better for when our contract ends with in 2019 but we could terminate it at any time if wanted,Now im not saying its going to benefit us Trinity but if we did use newcold ltd then that would be giving them more business in which hopefully would help pay for a Community Stadium we'll just after wait and see.
Up the Trin
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| Quote ="The Avenger"That's what I was working on Kinley,
The first Newcold was around 23,000 m² and the second one was projected to be slightly bigger there for around 50,000 m² in total
If the Clarks Brewery distribution centre is as big as mentioned then it will take the total to around 80,000 m² which is approximately 20,000 m² beyond the trigger point'"
The second Newcold build is smaller, it is on the council planning portal if you want to check it out. The TOTAL will be circa 40000m2. As the other poster has pointed out the Clarks build is apparently going to be around 15000m2. It is a very good step forward but will need another build to pass the trigger. TRB confirmed this in the last thread.
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I'm guessing this has fallen at a fortuitous time for Salford and the politicians.
www.skysports.com/share/10880005
I wonder if the support continues after the election or not.
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I'm guessing this has fallen at a fortuitous time for Salford and the politicians.
www.skysports.com/share/10880005
I wonder if the support continues after the election or not.
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Quote ="kinleycat"I'm guessing this has fallen at a fortuitous time for Salford and the politicians.
www.skysports.com/share/10880005
I wonder if the support continues after the election or not.'"
Backed by Robbie Hunter Paul, I hope it was a better job for Salford than he did for Bradford
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Quote ="kinleycat"I'm guessing this has fallen at a fortuitous time for Salford and the politicians.
www.skysports.com/share/10880005
I wonder if the support continues after the election or not.'"
Backed by Robbie Hunter Paul, I hope it was a better job for Salford than he did for Bradford
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| Quote ="djcool"Backed by Robbie Hunter Paul, I hope it was a better job for Salford than he did for Bradford'"
and a better job than his dancing across the pitch during the Challenge cup ties!
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| Quote ="PHe"and a better job than his dancing across the pitch during the Challenge cup ties!'"
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| Quote ="bren2k"Painful that isn't it - running across the pitch, getting in the way, babbling breathlessly about body language and psychology... very useful!'"
It was like he'd been wound up and then forced onto the pitch.
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| Quote ="djcool"Backed by Robbie Hunter Paul, I hope it was a better job for Salford than he did for Bradford[/quot
I don't know how he gets these jobs, I can't remember him being a success any where.
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| His contribution to the programme quality was nil. I felt embarrassed for him running around on the pitch when play was under way. He was on the pitch nearly as much as that Wigan water carrier the other week. Please BBC if you feel obliged to employ RH-P, then give him a job worthwhile.
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| Interestingly enough a piece on Sheffield Eagles new stadium states they can not play at Belle Vue next season. Sounds like this is the end for the ground.
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| Excellent if true, it should have been bulldozed years ago. The red herring that Yorkcourt and Box fed Rodney of getting a lick of paint for BV meant that Newmarket was put back years.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"Excellent if true, it should have been bulldozed years ago. The red herring that Yorkcourt and Box fed Rodney of getting a lick of paint for BV meant that Newmarket was put back years.'"
Totally agree !!!!!!!!
I also fear this tactic may be used again in the not too distant future. They still believe people are stupid enough to swallow this and by putting it back on the table again they could drag it on till we pack up altogether then then they will have to give us nothing.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Totally agree !!!!!!!!
I also fear this tactic may be used again in the not too distant future. They still believe people are stupid enough to swallow this and by putting it back on the table again they could drag it on till we pack up altogether then then they will have to give us nothing.'"
Still prefer to stay at BV myself if it were possible. However your absolutely right in what you say as is Belly - it has to be NM as per the agreement - or if there is an alternative it better be available instantly or work on it starts instantly.
In other words cash up front.
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| Quote ="vastman"Still prefer to stay at BV myself if it were possible. However your absolutely right in what you say as is Belly - it has to be NM as per the agreement - or if there is an alternative it better be available instantly or work on it starts instantly.
In other words cash up front.'"
Just checked the land registry website Group 88 paid £760K for Belle Vue. That is peanuts when you look at the profit Yorkcourt will make out of the planning gain at Newmarket and they were not even prepared to stump up that! Tells you all you need to know.
A revamped Belle Vue was always a massive red herring and we were gullible enough to swallow it. If anyone ever suggests it again they should be told where to shove it.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"
A revamped Belle Vue was always a massive red herring and we were gullible enough to swallow it. If anyone ever suggests it again they should be told where to shove it.'"
Didn't really happen like that though did it, the re-vamp was a consequence, a necessity born out of the anticipated construction at Newmarket.
If there was any swallowing going on it was with regard to the promise, not the make do and mend till its built.
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