No problem - you may be right!

Well it’s official SBW is a Toronto player

awesome news for the league - can only bring in more sponsors and money.

I am hearing they may have VAL HOLMES as well.

on the pitch I still think they will be fighting relegation but who knows

Daddycool I would be interested to hear your thoughts on this ?

well that's the cap smashed

Not at all snowie .......
`The Wolfpack, a club owned by Australian mining tycoon David Argyle, have made Williams one of their two permitted marquee players on a deal believed to be worth £5m over two years.

It will make him the highest paid player in the history of either code, but his marquee status means that only the first £150,000 of his salary will count towards the club's salary cap.`

cover it up how you like

For me, the prospect of big signings was always one of the main plus points about Toronto getting promoted, but never expected it to be SBW. I know he's past his best and raises eyebrows about salary cap, but still looking forward to seeing him play at BV - can't grumble really.

It clearly doesn't bust the cap - the marquee rule has no upper limit on what a player can be paid; it just exempts anything above 150k from the cap.

The more that people complain about this, the more bitter and insular they will appear. Toronto have made a big splash - it has attracted international attention - and the risk is entirely theirs. I don't see what the issue is.

but how many players can be marquee is it not two the ruling, Darcy Lussick, Ricky Leutele and now Williams are all marquee are they not, while I agree he will be good for the game there are rules to abide by and were getting to the point where turning a blind eye will in the end break it,
just look at what happened to Bradford on the way they spent

I don't know; if the limit is two, and SBW is one, that suggests that at least one of the other two isn't a marquee player.

TBH it's a good point because i didn't realise Lussick was a marquee player but he is. So that means they have 3 now, isn't 2 the max? I'm confused.

Just read an article on sporting Life and it says this


Firstly I didmn't know Money Bill was getting a piece of Toronto and how can they be confident of getting a 3rd Marquee player permitted?

I hadn't seen that - and it changes things; if the rule is two, and they already have two, then there are questions to answer.

Both Darcy Lussick and Ricky Leutele are marquee - My guess is that they will get rid of one? I think with SBW coming from Union his wage does not count on the cap for the first year anyway.

SBW will count on cap as only union players who have not previously played league are exempt from cap for 1st year

This Salary Cap thing is positively byzantine; no wonder poor old Leeds got so muddled up!

Seems quite straight forward to me Bren, it is when you start looking at various loop holes that it gets complicated.

"Siri - show me an oxymoron."

must of been another SBW that played league before how silly of me

It just means that either Lussick or Leutele will no longer be classed as a marquee player and their full salary will count against the cap. No rule breaking at all providing they don’t overspend.

Leutele has got a million quid contract himself

Been told his salary

Christ almighty.

He'll only count as £75k on the cap.

Maybe it’s just me, but I find it pretty distasteful that a club that was born three years ago can spend $3 million a year on a player when historic and proper clubs have gone to the wall (Widnes and Bradford for example).

Screw Toronto, and screw the expansionists.

That's the spirit!

Pretty much the biggest name signing I can ever remember comes to a brand new team getting our sport loads of column inches all round the world and 'fans' of the sport like you just want to moan. Sadly, we get the sport we deserve......

I for one hope Toronto make a success of it and I can't wait to see SBW play and hopefully I can find a way to get to Canada for our game there.