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| Bird man from Alcatraz
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| was a strange one today with bird he seemd to arrive from nowhere, look good for ten mins and then we sussed him.
again thought danny b who was defending his side did well , in fact im suprised he has had no mom votes in retrospect.
then again we all see a different game, even in the same ground!
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| I thought he did some very good things for them and looked very dangerous. Give him a couple of weeks to fully get to grips with the game over here and I think he'll be right up there with the very best overseas we've had in Super League.
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| I think to avoid any more posters making themselves look foolish this thread should be locked......
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| Quote ="mwildcats"I'm sure jonh and a few others will back me up
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Did not make it today something cropped up, gutted, Bird is all class though he will hammer SL this year. Its stunning he played and well by the sounds of it after the last few days.
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| i thought he looked pretty classy tbh and gave them the impetus to come back at us first half
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| Quote ="pocket 4's"i thought he looked pretty classy tbh and gave them the impetus to come back at us first half'"
I thought Blanchy's cock-up with the drop out ball gave them that impetus?
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| can you tell everyone . how many games has bird played in the uk and france
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| Thought he looked good in patches. Has not played for 6 months except for 2 interchange appearances. When he gets up to fitness and the pace of Super League I think a few will be eating humble pie.
Wish he had signed for us.
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| Bird got Catalan back in the game during his first 20 minute spell.
Looked a class player, lovely off loads down the left hand side led to a couple of clean breaks.
Non existant in the second half.
Could be a outstanding signing for Super league, looking forward to seeing him play when hes settled and fully fit.
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| He didn't look fit but you could tell he had class. Bosses his players around, moved the forwards into positions, good hands.
Shame we didn't sign him as when he's 100% match fit, he'll be a class act.
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| Taking all the circumstances into account I thought he looked very classy. Thoughtful, incisive handling (lacking finess in execution on occasions) - very strong in contact, aggressive in defence, assertive in managing his team on offence.
I think we got of lightly getting the fixture out the way b4 he is fit and understands their patterns.
Assuming he stays and gets fit I predict he will be a real stand out player in super league. Would have been an awesom addition to our pack.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"Yes thats the point, it seems we are to be told he's great and not use our own minds from the grass is always greener crew
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Exactly.
If I were Atkins I'd be thinking why am I not being described as awsome considering I played 80 mins, tackles like a deamon and did everything right.
Yet instead in true Trinity style we wet ourselves over a single Aussie who had a half decent start but may well implode due to off field issues.
I'm really peed off with this thread. We see our team produce yet another top notch effort but it's all about Bird. This is Bird a player who as yet has done sod all in SL but hey let's all look over the fence and rue what we haven't got instead of praising what we have.
To all the star gazers on this thread I ask a simple question, which of our under achieving squad would you sacrifice to fit in this Dame Edna level megastar?
Logically I'd drop JD for him as he's probably make a better utility player.
Yes folks this is what we are talking about here or you could go for Gleeson or Atkins or even Martin the choice is yours.
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| I haven't seen a more out of shape rugby league player since Solomona, but there were no glimpses of Solo's brilliance. I can only say from what I saw, and I didn't see much.
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| Quote ="vastman":4dbprq0dExactly.
If I were Atkins I'd be thinking why am I not being described as awsome considering I played 80 mins, tackles like a deamon and did everything right.
Yet instead in true Trinity style we wet ourselves over a single Aussie who had a half decent start but may well implode due to off field issues.
:4dbprq0dI'm really peed off with this thread. We see our team produce yet another top notch effort but it's all about Bird:4dbprq0d. This is Bird a player who as yet has done sod all in SL but hey let's all look over the fence and rue what we haven't got instead of praising what we have.
To all the star gazers on this thread I ask a simple question, which of our under achieving squad would you sacrifice to fit in this Dame Edna level megastar?
Logically I'd drop JD for him as he's probably make a better utility player.
Yes folks this is what we are talking about here or you could go for Gleeson or Atkins or even Martin the choice is yours.'"
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"I haven't seen a more out of shape rugby league player since Solomona, but there were no glimpses of Solo's brilliance. I can only say from what I saw, and I didn't see much.'"
Exactly what I said.
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"Thought he looked good in patches. Has not played for 6 months except for 2 interchange appearances. When he gets up to fitness and the pace of Super League I think a few will be eating humble pie.
Wish he had signed for us.'"
Not at all, if we had said he will do crap in SL and then he goes on to be a class act maybe but all we are saying is that he was not all that good yesterday.
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| Given that the guy is not match fit, has had very few training sessions with his new team, has just flown once round the world and was probably suffering from jet lag, it's a little unfair to expect him to turn in a match-winning performance. No one even expected him to play, so the surprise factor, plus the fact he is a player we were interested in signing, makes comment about him justified.
From the clips I've seen of him, he's clearly an outstanding player. That said, in many respects I'm glad we didn't get him, as I could see us having difficulties fitting him in, in the same way that we seem to have had difficulties making the Drew/Brough partnership work.
I'm absolutely delighted that our young guns and home-based talents are going so well this season. There are a number of threads commenting about individual players, though, and a number of threads heaping praise on the team as a whole for another outstanding "against the odds" performance.
The impact that Bird will have on SL will probably depend more on the Ausralian courts than the player himself, though.
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| Quote ="vastman"
I'm really peed off with this thread. We see our team produce yet another top notch effort but it's all about Bird. '"
Come off it Vasty, when you open a thread titled 'Greg Bird' you have to expect that people will be discussing the performance of ........ wait for it ............ Greg Bird. Save yourself getting upset by reading about him by only opening threads that are not about him.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"I haven't seen a more out of shape rugby league player since Solomona, but there were no glimpses of Solo's brilliance. I can only say from what I saw, and I didn't see much.'"
What about Dean Widders on Saturday night! His gut was up their with the unfit players of this season bigstyle.
Looked very ordinary and totally unfit.
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| Quote ="vastman"I'm really peed off with this thread. We see our team produce yet another top notch effort but it's all about Bird. This is Bird a player who as yet has done sod all in SL but hey let's all look over the fence and rue what we haven't got instead of praising what we have.'"
Must have missed the many posts praising Ferguson, Bibey, Sculthorpe and even Henderson on here then!
Would I prefer Bird or Henderson? Tough question...I shouldn't judge Kev after a couple of mediocre seasons now he's played a couple of decent games!
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| Quote ="vastman"Exactly.
If I were Atkins I'd be thinking why am I not being described as awsome considering I played 80 mins, tackles like a deamon and did everything right.
Yet instead in true Trinity style we wet ourselves over a single Aussie who had a half decent start but may well implode due to off field issues.
I'm really peed off with this thread. We see our team produce yet another top notch effort but it's all about Bird. This is Bird a player who as yet has done sod all in SL but hey let's all look over the fence and rue what we haven't got instead of praising what we have.
To all the star gazers on this thread I ask a simple question, which of our under achieving squad would you sacrifice to fit in this Dame Edna level megastar?
Logically I'd drop JD for him as he's probably make a better utility player.
Yes folks this is what we are talking about here or you could go for Gleeson or Atkins or even Martin the choice is yours.'"
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| Quote ="TRB"It is a thread called 'Greg Bird', and we don't have to want them in our side to appreciate the skill they offer - which is substantial in his case.
In no thread have I made one negative comment about our side from yesterday, made one suggestion of dropping, changing or getting rid of any player - but yes, I though Greg Bird was fantastic, but that is my opinion and you are entitled to yours.'"
I'm not digging at you in particular or anyone in general it just happens you used the expression "awesome" which from you seemed way OTT as I have to say is "fantastic" he just wasn't IMHO. I'm just amazed that we have a thread this long as regards one player who doesn't play for us whilst Fergusons has limped to two pages - where is the logic I just don't get it. Yes it is all about opinion and mine is that I can't see how he has warranted such adulation on that one showing, he just didn't.
Clearly Bird is a good player by reputation and showed glimpses but he hasn't earned it in SL yet and there is no guarantee he will. Trent Barrett was a decent SL but he never IMO quite lived up to the billing. I just think we are too quick to praise them just because they do what they are supposed to do, I saw nothing that was extraordinary or much better than was on offer elsewhere. The fact that he had just arrived is a red herring IMHO, in a way it's easier for a player to do that as he has nothing to lose, it's a ready made excuse. See how he goes in 6 games time or even if he is still here.
Yes I would sign him if he became available in the close season, but for now he is not a Trinity player and that doesn't bother me and if he proves a great buy for Catalan that doesn't bother me either.
I'm happy with what we have, I'm a simple old fool like that. Finally your opinion is always most welcome in my book and always will be even when it gets a bit flowery
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"Would I prefer Bird or Henderson? Tough question...I shouldn't judge Kev after a couple of mediocre seasons now he's played a couple of decent games!'"
But I bet Bird hasn't signed for Hendo's wages.
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"Must have missed the many posts praising Ferguson, Bibey, Sculthorpe and even Henderson on here then!
Would I prefer Bird or Henderson? Tough question...I shouldn't judge Kev after a couple of mediocre seasons now he's played a couple of decent games!'"
No it's not a tough question, it would be Bird - just don't overlook the fact that Bird doesn't play for us will you
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