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| Quote ="TheDreadnought"Not that anyone really wants to watch them but I could currently get a season ticket at Huddersfield for £80! The question still stands, it would be interesting to see what other clubs are doing to compete with that.
This does also outline that lower prices do not mean more fans. I'm just genuinely curious about what clubs are doing to try and compete with each other on pricing and attendances.'"
And their owner subsidises that club to the tune of £1million per year.
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| Quote ="TheDreadnought"You're avoiding the question.
Budget being the most important thing of all, the SL season finished on Saturday officially. That means families with bills and children to prioritise have to find £55 per month (per person) to find.
I've sorted my ticket already, so I don't have to worry but the comment at the end of last season in jest or not about selling more season tickets is absolutely laughable at these prices.
So I will reiterate it would just be interesting to see how teams like Wakefield are trying to mimic the NRL deals and do we ever see Adult ticket pricing ever dropping?'"
No I don't see the price dropping unless the next tv deal is massive. I'm beginning to think you a previous owner
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| Quote ="homme vaste"Go get one then, you obviously have a great deal of love for the Huddersfield club.
Do you know how much money Davy pours into the club to allow them to spend up to the cap and play out of that shiny stadium, or do you think it comes from there £80 seasons tickets?
Take a look around old boy, nobody in the league is trying to compete with Hudds £5.70 a game value, they are all relatively similar pricing outside of them, maybe you should question why Hudds are devaluing the game that much that you have to ask these questions?'"
I don't have a love for Huddersfield, I just get free tickets and the odd invitation. Huddersfield have the luxury of only paying towards 30% of their ground costs which I'm presuming is one of the main reasons for them been able to offer a reduced price.
This is where your hatred for me is blinding you from reading my point. I've already sorted the money for my ticket but I'm saying comments like we had at the end of the season about being able to spend the cap if more season tickets were sold (in jest or not) are laughable when charging the prices they do, a lot of people simply cannot justify pricing like this, especially when other clubs blow us out of the water.
Apart from the 3 monthly payments of 70 odd quid we don't even offer any sort of monthly price. You can get a ticket at KR for £19.99 per months, with £20 upfront. Much more realistic for working class families in the North...
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| Quote ="Daddycool"No I don't see the price dropping unless the next tv deal is massive. I'm beginning to think you a previous owner'"
Thanks for clarifying, I've never had any affiliation with the club apart from being a fan.
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| Quote ="TheDreadnought"I don't have a love for Huddersfield, I just get free tickets and the odd invitation. Huddersfield have the luxury of only paying towards 30% of their ground costs which I'm presuming is one of the main reasons for them been able to offer a reduced price.
This is where your hatred for me is blinding you from reading my point. I've already sorted the money for my ticket but I'm saying comments like we had at the end of the season about being able to spend the cap if more season tickets were sold (in jest or not) are laughable when charging the prices they do, a lot of people simply cannot justify pricing like this, especially when other clubs blow us out of the water.
Apart from the 3 monthly payments of 70 odd quid we don't even offer any sort of monthly price. You can get a ticket at KR for £19.99 per months, with £20 upfront. Much more realistic for working class families in the North...'"
Again football families seem to cope.
Have further to travel n all.
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| Quote ="TheDreadnought"I don't have a love for Huddersfield, I just get free tickets and the odd invitation. Huddersfield have the luxury of only paying towards 30% of their ground costs which I'm presuming is one of the main reasons for them been able to offer a reduced price.
This is where your hatred for me is blinding you from reading my point. I've already sorted the money for my ticket but I'm saying comments like we had at the end of the season about being able to spend the cap if more season tickets were sold (in jest or not) are laughable when charging the prices they do, a lot of people simply cannot justify pricing like this, especially when other clubs blow us out of the water.
Apart from the 3 monthly payments of 70 odd quid we don't even offer any sort of monthly price. You can get a ticket at KR for £19.99 per months, with £20 upfront. Much more realistic for working class families in the North...'"
You think the reason they are able to offer season tickets at £80 is because they only pay 30% towards the rental of there stadium? Nothing to do with the million pound a year Ken Davy throws at them no?
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| Quote ="Willzay"Again football families seem to cope.
Have further to travel n all.'"
And at the risk of getting called a troll it's all relative, most football families aren't travelling to sit in a shed Willzay, not to say I don't love Belle Vue.
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| Quote ="TheDreadnought"And at the risk of getting called a troll it's all relative, most football families aren't travelling to sit in a shed Willzay, not to say I don't love Belle Vue.'"
Fair contradiction there.
So your gripe is with the "quality of BV" rather than the price then, at least we are clear about your gripe.
As said earlier, I'd take BV with all of its faults, over the empty, soulless John Smiths stadium, all day long, which is why they struggle to sell tickets at £80, never mind a more realistic price.
At £80 a pop for season tickets, we'd have to be getting 15000 a week at BV - you do the math.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Fair contradiction there.
So your gripe is with the "quality of BV" rather than the price then, at least we are clear about your gripe.
As said earlier, I'd take BV with all of its faults, over the empty, soulless John Smiths stadium, all day long, which is why they struggle to sell tickets at £80, never mind a more realistic price.
At £80 a pop for season tickets, we'd have to be getting 15000 a week at BV - you do the math.'"
It's one of the factors absolutely, I won't deny that but I am asking what the club (and other clubs in SL) are doing in the background to compete with NRL prices, £80 season tickets and £19.99pm plans. All of which I am not speculating about, I'm providing facts.
More realistic pricing or payment options to me *key word* [ucould [/u bring more fans, shop sales and match day profit on consumables.
Does anyone know how many season tickets we sold last year?
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| I'm sure MC has said in the past that the in-ground sales (booze, food etc) don't see a significant raise in revenue for matches that have cheap tickets.
We've tried cheap tickets before and went bust, Bradford did the same when they were in SL.
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| Quote ="TheDreadnought"It's one of the factors absolutely, I won't deny that but I am asking what the club (and other clubs in SL) are doing in the background to compete with NRL prices, £80 season tickets and £19.99pm plans. All of which I am not speculating about, I'm providing facts.
More realistic pricing or payment options to me *key word* [ucould [/u bring more fans, shop sales and match day profit on consumables.
Does anyone know how many season tickets we sold last year?'"
It's not the number of people. It's the income they bring.
Cheap tickets needs to bring a significant increase.
Also, your point about competing isn't valid.
Our prices have no relevance to NRL or even other super league teams. We are competing against the other things that people in Wakefield spend money on.
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| Quote ="PopTart"It's not the number of people. It's the income they bring.
Cheap tickets needs to bring a significant increase.
Also, your point about competing isn't valid.
Our prices have no relevance to NRL or even other super league teams. We are competing against the other things that people in Wakefield spend money on.'"
Why isn't it valid?
Fundamentally everythingthat happens at Wakefield including pricing, facilities, players, staff, fans, on field performance, even the car park count towards the only thing any fan should care about and that's making a success of Wakefield Trinity.
So comparing other clubs in the same sport IMO is 100% valid.
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| Sick to the back teeth of people digging the club out over ticket prices. It costs what its costs - if you don't like it don't come. It is quite clear the price points have been set to fit in with the business plan that is keeping this club alive. I'm sure the club would like to play all home games at 3pm on Sunday or any fixed time by SKY call the shots and pay a significant wedge to the lcub for the rights to do that. If anyone is able to plug the approx. £2m funding gap per annum required to tell Sky to do one then please stump up now. Otherwise shut up.
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| Quote ="wakefieldwall"Sick to the back teeth of people digging the club out over ticket prices. It costs what its costs - if you don't like it don't come. It is quite clear the price points have been set to fit in with the business plan that is keeping this club alive. I'm sure the club would like to play all home games at 3pm on Sunday or any fixed time by SKY call the shots and pay a significant wedge to the lcub for the rights to do that. If anyone is able to plug the approx. £2m funding gap per annum required to tell Sky to do one then please stump up now. Otherwise shut up.'"
Funnily enough that's not how forums work.
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| Why should we be competing with NRL prices anyway? I reckon 75% of Wakefield don’t even know what the NRL is, let alone the ticket prices.
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| Quote ="TheDreadnought"Why isn't it valid?
Fundamentally everythingthat happens at Wakefield including pricing, facilities, players, staff, fans, on field performance, even the car park count towards the only thing any fan should care about and that's making a success of Wakefield Trinity.
So comparing other clubs in the same sport IMO is 100% valid.'"
Your point about competing with The NRL isn't valid because, although they play the same sport, we aren't in competition with them for attracting fans or season ticket holders.
Competing with Huddersfield may be important but, with the possible exception of yourself, I dont know too many fans that like visiting The John Smiths stadium, let alone want to watch them instead of Trinity. ,therefore, even they are barely "competition".
From where this thread started off with a simple question about whether Platinum "early bird" tickets ceased this Saturday, which they do, we have drifted wildly.
You started off complaining that Trinity haven't reduced their prices and have drifted further since then and you appear to have a different agenda to the rest of us.
The bottom line is that you either watch Trinity or dont, it's a free world
DC has indicated how you can reduce the cost, either by purchasing a ST or buying in advance and if you prefer Shudds, then, crack on.
Personally, I dont see why anyone would but, it's a free world.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Your point about competing with The NRL isn't valid because, although they play the same sport, we aren't in competition with them for attracting fans or season ticket holders.
Competing with Huddersfield may be important but, with the possible exception of yourself, I dont know too many fans that like visiting The John Smiths stadium, let alone want to watch them instead of Trinity. ,therefore, even they are barely "competition".
From where this thread started off with a simple question about whether Platinum "early bird" tickets ceased this Saturday, which they do, we have drifted wildly.
You started off complaining that Trinity haven't reduced their prices and have drifted further since then and you appear to have a different agenda to the rest of us.
The bottom line is that you either watch Trinity or dont, it's a free world
DC has indicated how you can reduce the cost, either by purchasing a ST or buying in advance and if you prefer Shudds, then, crack on.
Personally, I dont see why anyone would but, it's a free world.'"
And my point on KR offering monthly payments. Where do you stand on that one?
Whilst I do think they are overpriced (including the D as it seems as I initially wrote overprice lol) my agenda isn't "bring those costs down this instant" it's "It would just be interesting to see how teams like Wakefield are trying to mimic the NRL deals and do we ever see Adult ticket pricing ever dropping?"
I get it's all in the background for a reason and in no way am I saying it should be public knowledge but
DC mentioned a state payment to Melbourne, have we approached our alternative for something similar?
Melbourne have big name sponsors, have we approached companies like (sticking with Melbourne) Suzuki? (Although I have pointed out I really liked the Asus deal)
Do we intend on offering monthly plans similar to KR?
It's all relative IMO and I don't know how many more times I need to point out, I have already sorted my season ticket.
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| Not too sure if I am in a minority here but on the flip side of the coin, I always find myself wanting to contribute to the club in any way I can, through buying Merch etc, even when i am not a massive fan of it, I still usually go out of my way to buy some. I always buy my Father a season ticket at Christmas, though I know that he wont even make some of the games... Maybe a bit sad in a way but I am more than happy to hand my money over come game day knowing that I am contributing towards something I love, if the tickets were £30 I would still pay that over paying £10 at Hudds or any other club for that matter. I am in a fortunate enough position to be comfortable with money so outside of my own personal situation I cannot comment.
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| Well if you are in a minority I’m in there with you, along with those things you mention I also pay sponsorship for a player and am part of a group that has sponsored a player every year since Tim smith arrived, plus I pay into the club 1873 (commit 6) and when I go to the academy & scholarship games I still put in to the pot even though they are free to season ticket holders
Going back to Dreadnoughts last post, Wakefield do offer a direct debit staggered payment offer, so not sure where your gripe is with monthly payments. We are not competing with the NRL so their pricing and funding solutions are 100% irrelevant to us. As someone else has stated, we are competing with every other activity in the WF post code zone that people spend their disposable income on and to a lesser extent other RL clubs (really only cas hudds & Leeds) as they are in the same competition as us and to a lesser extent Batley, Fev and Dewsbury.
Lastly as someone who has worked in sales for the last 32 years, what works in Australia is not necessarily going to work here, I can tell you I have a different sales approach in Barnsley than I do in Wakefield so a 12000 mile away demographic are definitely going to have different needs the the populous of the merrie city
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| Quote ="financialtimes"Well if you are in a minority I’m in there with you, along with those things you mention I also pay sponsorship for a player and am part of a group that has sponsored a player every year since Tim smith arrived, plus I pay into the club 1873 (commit 6) and when I go to the academy & scholarship games I still put in to the pot even though they are free to season ticket holders
Going back to Dreadnoughts last post, Wakefield do offer a direct debit staggered payment offer, so not sure where your gripe is with monthly payments. We are not competing with the NRL so their pricing and funding solutions are 100% irrelevant to us. As someone else has stated, we are competing with every other activity in the WF post code zone that people spend their disposable income on and to a lesser extent other RL clubs (really only cas hudds & Leeds) as they are in the same competition as us and to a lesser extent Batley, Fev and Dewsbury.
Lastly as someone who has worked in sales for the last 32 years, what works in Australia is not necessarily going to work here, I can tell you I have a different sales approach in Barnsley than I do in Wakefield so a 12000 mile away demographic are definitely going to have different needs the the populous of the merrie city
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If you don't mind me asking which of the two payment offers would be most convenient/appealing to the standard working class family? Paying £259 over 3 months or 12?
I also work in sales and completely agree, that's not to say the same strategy tweaked slightly wouldn't benefit the club. My point isn't "copy Melbourne".
Not that I don't agree that Wakefield are also in competition with other activity across WF but other than RL what else would you include?
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Absolutely on this with you. See my season ticket as membership which throws the games in for free. so I might miss a few but at least the club will be around in a few years when I can make them all.
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| Quote ="TheDreadnought"Why would the club drop the price to a more affordable price? It's all speculation obviously but if the numbers were to increase we have more people to sell to, in the club shop, on the day in the ground and more people to market to.
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You dont have to go far back to see what that kind of policy does, Glover nearly took us under with it. Look at Bradford, again cheap tickets I know there fundamental other reasons why they ate struggling but discounted tickets didn't return income to save them
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I hadn't seen HV's reply as I have him on ignore but good for you guys who can afford to do that, I also have had season ticket for a few years now and sorted mine for 2020 which is why I wanted to ensure nobody sees this as me stamping my feet because I want it cheaper, I want to see the club be a success and IMO replicating other teams is the way forward.
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