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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"Why is it a good thing to see a club in debt like that?'"
It's called Karma, although not complete yet.
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| Nah balls to all of them who are in massive amounts of debt. If they want to do a Bradford that’s on them.
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| Well, thats good news whatever year it is!
Funnily enough I was talking to JM last week at the Xmas Fayre and he said that he'd got into "trouble" from MC about buying new goalposts!
I said, well thats typical JM, as MC is an accountant.....
We looked over at him and I said look at that John - he's got his hands in his pockets now protecting his wallet!!
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| Quote ="Willzay"Nah balls to all of them who are in massive amounts of debt. If they want to do a Bradford that’s on them.'"
But we can 't play ourselves week in, week out.
All clubs need to be sustainable.
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull"Well, thats good news whatever year it is!
Funnily enough I was talking to JM last week at the Xmas Fayre and he said that he'd got into "trouble" from MC about buying new goalposts!
I said, well thats typical JM, as MC is an accountant.....
We looked over at him and I said look at that John - he's got his hands in his pockets now protecting his wallet!!
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Not sure why, but I've got that image of Morecambe and Wise in bed with their pyjamas on.
Not sure which one is which!
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| That's a pretty remarkable effort to make any kind of profit given the economic climate of the last 2 or 3 years! Well done MC & Co.
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| Quote ="BackSeatCoach"But we can 't play ourselves week in, week out.
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If the big 4 had their way that’s exactly what’d they be doing.
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| Quote ="Willzay"If the big 4 had their way that’s exactly what’d they be doing.'"
No. What they want is to play sustainable competitive teams.
The "big four" could quite easily by the big 8.
The point of all this work is to get in that group.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Report says Shudds now have a total debt of £20 million. Good to hear.'"
They most likely only owe it to one old man who is absolutely loaded and sees the club as his muse.
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| The thing that struck me most when I read this article is the level of losses some clubs are running up on a yearly basis. However the same clubs are the ones screaming the loudest to increase the salary cap. It seems the more money they can borrow , the happier they are.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"They most likely only owe it to one old man who is absolutely loaded and sees the club as his muse.'"
That is clearly stated in the report.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"They most likely only owe it to one old man who is absolutely loaded and sees the club as his muse.'"
The thing I don't understand is, he could fund a purpose built ground for that club, one that they own and is there for 100 years. That would be someway to leave a legacy.
Instead he tries to chase trophies.
Find it rather odd myself.
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| Quote ="PopTart"No. What they want is to play sustainable competitive teams.
The "big four" could quite easily by the big 8.
The point of all this work is to get in that group.'"
The Big 4 are only the Big 4, because they actively sustain a "them and us" mentality, economy and structure for the game.
Whilst it's in the game's interest to grow, it's in the Big 4's interest to keep it just how it is.
They are happy to be the big fish in a small pond.
Hopefully that will change.
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| Quote ="dboy"The Big 4 are only the Big 4, because they actively sustain a "them and us" mentality, economy and structure for the game.
Whilst it's in the game's interest to grow, it's in the Big 4's interest to keep it just how it is.
They are happy to be the big fish in a small pond.
Hopefully that will change.'"
The very fact the big four are not the same big four from the first few years kinda disproves that.
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"Couldn't agree more PT, and that was my point entirely'"
Obviously Huddersfield haven't heard of the old saying ( cut your cloth accordingly) which in these times of uncertainty ring ever more true . If the boot was on the other foot as we have already previously witnessed by Shudds they’d be circling over belle vue as we speak . No good putting the salary cap up or having past it players on silly wages under the guise of marquee player when there simply isn’t the money coming into the game at present or fans to justify it . . Home grown is the way to go and put something back into the grass roots so there are pathways for the next stars to come through . Carter had it spot on and long may he continue to captain the ship .
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| Quote ="Kettykat"Obviously Huddersfield haven't heard of the old saying ( cut your cloth accordingly) which in these times of uncertainty ring ever more true . If the boot was on the other foot as we have already previously witnessed by Shudds they’d be circling over belle vue as we speak . No good putting the salary cap up or having past it players on silly wages under the guise of marquee player when there simply isn’t the money coming into the game at present or fans to justify it . . Home grown is the way to go and put something back into the grass roots so there are pathways for the next stars to come through . Carter had it spot on and long may he continue to captain the ship .'"
Huddersfield aren’t in any trouble whatsoever so no one is circling around their assets like they did when we were in financial dire straits, that’s the crucial difference here.
Ken Davy has told The Giants what level of financial backing he’s prepared to give and he will never call his Directors loans back in. I know some on here would love to think that when Ken dies Huddersfield will be up the creek without a paddle but that won’t be the case. As I’ve said here before his granddaughter Becky will take over his position and she’s a bigger fan of supporting the Giants than he is.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Huddersfield aren’t in any trouble whatsoever so no one is circling around their assets like they did when we were in financial dire straits, that’s the crucial difference here.
Ken Davy has told The Giants what level of financial backing he’s prepared to give and he will never call his Directors loans back in. I know some on here would love to think that when Ken dies Huddersfield will be up the creek without a paddle but that won’t be the case. As I’ve said here before his granddaughter Becky will take over his position and she’s a bigger fan of supporting the Giants than he is.'"
That bit I will believe when I see it.
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| Quote ="vastman"That bit I will believe when I see it.'"
Each to their own although it comes across less like disbelief and more like wishful thinking IMO
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Each to their own although it comes across less like disbelief and more like wishful thinking IMO'"
Not really.
Ken Davey is a freak, he's committed everything to that lost cause and I admire him for it. But in truth Hudds are a RL team in a soccer town and always will be, no amount of money will ever change that. So I find it hard to believe that anyone will defy reality with the same stoicism as Ken.
Money (not earned) has flowed into Hudds more than any other team in the last 30 years but they stubbornly remain an also ran. This is because IMHO that deep down only Ken believes.
Imagine if we had a Ken!
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| Who are the 'big 4' exactly? I always come back to Warrington & Hull who seemingly can compete off the field quite easily with Wigan, Leeds & Saints, who have won every G/F since it was introduced in '98 apart from Bradford. So if we include Shudds as in the financial side of things, what criteria is needed for the 'big 4'?! Clearly it's not how much money you have, it's what you do with it. Warrington, Hull & Hudds have thrown as much money about as the other 3, but have a few challenge cup wins, a couple of league leaders shields, and that's about it in the last 30 years or so. Having it doesn't guarantee success, but not having it also doesn't mean you can't be successful either. In relative terms, Salford have been 'successful' in the last 3 or 4 years, i would have gladly taken the ride they have been on and been to the 2 finals they have.......
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Huddersfield aren’t in any trouble whatsoever so no one is circling around their assets like they did when we were in financial dire straits, that’s the crucial difference here.
Ken Davy has told The Giants what level of financial backing he’s prepared to give and he will never call his Directors loans back in. I know some on here would love to think that when Ken dies Huddersfield will be up the creek without a paddle but that won’t be the case. As I’ve said here before his granddaughter Becky will take over his position and she’s a bigger fan of supporting the Giants than he is.'"
I suggest you read the Yorkshire post about the giants and their stadium , it’s looking likely that they’ll lose their stake in the ground to the football club if a huge bail out can’t be found ,as the KSDL are looking to ship control to Huddersfield Town after looking increasingly likely that they’ll go into administration due to huge debts
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| Quote ="Kettykat"I suggest you read the Yorkshire post about the giants and their stadium , it’s looking likely that they’ll lose their stake in the ground to the football club if a huge bail out can’t be found ,as the KSDL are looking to ship control to Huddersfield Town after looking increasingly likely that they’ll go into administration due to huge debts'"
I could do that, except I don’t trust newspapers
I’d rather go and talk to Becky Davy or Ken and get the truth
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| Quote ="The Avenger"I could do that, except I don’t trust newspapers
I’d rather go and talk to Becky Davy or Ken and get the truth'"
Well, crack on then and do report back on here....
Thanks
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| Quote ="The Avenger"I could do that, except I don’t trust newspapers
[uI’d rather go and talk to Becky Davy or Ken and get the truth[/u'"
You little name dropper you
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| Quote ="The Avenger"I could do that, except I don’t trust newspapers
I’d rather go and talk to Becky Davy or Ken and get the truth'"
See if they fancy investing while you’re there.
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