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| I remember after the victory over Bradford one chairman indicated if we had lost then he would have to reconsider staying on.
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| Quote ="Pat Bateman"Without sounding too negative I don’t think we have a cat in hells chance of staying up. A realistic scenario for me is we’ll be in the championship next year, with all players technically then been OOC. We now need to be seeing which players we want to be keeping for the championship next year and building a platform for returning in 2025 when hopefully we’ll be the 12th team to qualify under IMG’s structure. We’ve simply accumulated too much dead wood. If pigs could fly and do manage to stay up this year we would be in a awful position with Lineham and Co still in contract. I’ve never seen a team lack as much edge pace in my time of watching. Ashurst is our top try scorer which sums up the team. If a new investor is imminent, hopefully we will have a blank canvas to work from.'"
A blank canvas but, in the Championship, really doesn't sound great.
I agree about us accumulating a lot of dead wood.
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| The fact that some actually believe that relegation is a positive just shows the mess made by the current incumbents. It is not and never will be a positive, I agree our performances over the last few seasons have been bad but who is to blame for that not the supporters. We had a good, possibly very good squad only a few seasons ago then for whatever reason (reducing expenditure) this was trimmed and players replaced by less quality and now less numbers. I suppose when you have such a personality in charge and taking on the director of rugby’s responsibilities he believes that he knows what the club needs added to by the fact that we have survived when all looks lost.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"The fact that some actually believe that relegation is a positive just shows the mess made by the current incumbents. It is not and never will be a positive, I agree our performances over the last few seasons have been bad but who is to blame for that not the supporters. We had a good, possibly very good squad only a few seasons ago then for whatever reason (reducing expenditure) this was trimmed and players replaced by less quality and now less numbers. I suppose when you have such a personality in charge and taking on the director of rugby’s responsibilities he believes that he knows what the club needs added to by the fact that we have survived when all looks lost.'"
Honestly I always start agreeing with your post then you manage to throw a Carter dig in.
Relegation bad - I agree
Used to have a good squad - agree
Expenditure reduced - yes I agree
Replaced some with less capable players - yes but I'm pretty sure they didn't do it on purpose
Carter at fault - well I can't imagine he's signing players on his own. He sets the budget not the target list.
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| If we go down, the playing performance suddenly becomes a minor part of the requirements.
League position points come from an average over 3 seasons. So I guess its better to come top but that's a small fraction of a point.
The ground, social media, etc will be what gets us back.
Better to stay where we are if you want to see good rugby......or we'll see a possibly winning side going to Keighley for a long time.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"A blank canvas but, in the Championship, really doesn't sound great.
I agree about us accumulating a lot of dead wood.
There should be a huge incentive for any contracted players, as most would be unlikely to gain a SL contract elsewhere.'"
It doesn’t sound great, but honestly ask yourself I can’t see us winning a game never mind actually staying up.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Honestly I always start agreeing with your post then you manage to throw a Carter dig in.
Relegation bad - I agree
Used to have a good squad - agree
Expenditure reduced - yes I agree
Replaced some with less capable players - yes but I'm pretty sure they didn't do it on purpose
Carter at fault - well I can't imagine he's signing players on his own. He sets the budget not the target list.'"
He didn’t need to take part in the playing part of the business, something he is completely unqualified for.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"He didn’t need to take part in the playing part of the business, something he is completely unqualified for.'"
He still has to set the budget and agree contracts.
I don't know how it works but can you say he signed someone either Poching or Mash didn't want?
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| Quote ="vastman"He did, now tell us what you’ve done?'"
Don't know what wilzay's done, but I've followed Trinity for 67 years both home, and for most of that time away as well, and I agree with him entirely. does that not count to anything? I've probably put as much into the club as MC has done over the years. You're a relative "New boy"
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| It does count for something.....but really it just makes you (and me) really loyal customers.
The club needs you and should think about how to make you happy and keep you loyal, but it doesn't give you any decision making rights.
I've shopped at Asda for years but they never do what I ask them either.
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| Quote ="PopTart"He still has to set the budget and agree contracts.
I don't know how it works but can you say he signed someone either Poching or Mash didn't want?'"
He probably allowed some to leave that WP wanted to keep but maybe our new coach didn’t or was persuaded we didn’t need. I presume he was in charge of negotiations for contract renewal which I guess he considered a success for an accountant.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"He probably allowed some to leave that WP wanted to keep but maybe our new coach didn’t or was persuaded we didn’t need. I presume he was in charge of negotiations for contract renewal which I guess he considered a success for an accountant.'"
Probably...maybe....presume....guess
So you don't know.
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| Quote ="PopTart"It does count for something.....but really it just makes you (and me) really loyal customers.
The club needs you and should think about how to make you happy and keep you loyal, but it doesn't give you any decision making rights.
I've shopped at Asda for years but they never do what I ask them either.'"
No, but it doesn't stop you telling the manager of Asda that their butter is crap if that is what you think.
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| Quote ="Redscat"No, but it doesn't stop you telling the manager of Asda that their butter is crap if that is what you think.'"
Indeed.
He might throw you out though if you don't do it in a polite way.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Indeed.
He might throw you out though if you don't do it in a polite way.'"
Which produces bad publicity and a loss of business something our current incumbent and club have experienced.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Which produces bad publicity and a loss of business something our current incumbent and club have experienced.'"
Depends whether it was the right thing to do.
I don't suppose we've had anyone stop coming because the smoke bomb guy was banned.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Indeed.
He might throw you out though if you don't do it in a polite way.'"
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| Quote ="PopTart"It does count for something.....but really it just makes you (and me) really loyal customers.
The club needs you and should think about how to make you happy and keep you loyal, but it doesn't give you any decision making rights.
I've shopped at Asda for years but they never do what I ask them either.'"
A good point well made PT - we can all agree that value for money has been really poor over the last few years, this year especially.
What's really disappointing is the lack of new fans and the attempt in attracting them.
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| Quote ="Mary Millington"A good point well made PT - we can all agree that value for money has been really poor over the last few years, this year especially.
What's really disappointing is the lack of new fans and the attempt in attracting them.'"
Totally agree with this, our Marketing is nonexistent and our media/social media content is dull and boring.
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| Quote ="Mary Millington"
What's really disappointing is the lack of new fans and the attempt in attracting them.'"
In a nutshell: not winning enough games. Nothing else can really compete with that single attraction.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"In a nutshell: not winning enough games. Nothing else can really compete with that single attraction.'"
It certainly can't, and I think the crowds in 2017 & 2018 during our best seasons during Carters reign reflected that. Sadly poor playing recruitment season after season since, has led to poor results and steadily decreasing attendances.
Shame we couldn't speculate to accumulate at the end of 2018, to try and at least maintain those standards we had then.
Any new incoming person at the top needs to market the club, on the pitch as well as off it, and not rely, and certainly not immediately rely on that "big thing" that MC pointed out behind him during Thursday nights pre match interview.
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"
Any new incoming person at the top needs to market the club, on the pitch as well as off it, and not rely, and certainly not immediately rely on that "big thing" that MC pointed out behind him during Thursday nights pre match interview.'"
When he said that it made me think that he has the attitude of "build it and they will come", if that is the case then he is very much mistaken
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| Just been reading the remarks made by Phil Clarke on the serious about rugby league app. He thinks Wakefield are playing as well as they can and are not as bad as they are being painted he goes on to say if they had one player like Bevan French or even Tom Johnston they would have already won games and not be in the position they are. Food for thought. for the powers that be.
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| Quote ="Teltry"Just been reading the remarks made by Phil Clarke on the serious about rugby league app. He thinks Wakefield are playing as well as they can and are not as bad as they are being painted he goes on to say if they had one player like Bevan French or even Tom Johnston they would have already won games and not be in the position they are. Food for thought. for the powers that be.'"
I agree with him.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I agree with him.'" living is easy with eyes closed Misunderstanding all you see, about sums you up
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