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| I've seen the replay myself now and it looks harsh to single Poore out.
Farrell is one of the worst offenders of many in the Wigan team who do a bit of roughing up during the tackle - he clearly puts his fore-arm in Poore's face whilst he's on the floor, then tries to push him around whilst he's getting up. Poore objected, Farrel grabbed a handful of shirt and tried to throw a short punch - Poore then gets him with the now legendary 'Five Point Palm Exploding Head Technique.'
I would hope that given the extreme provocation he was subjected to, the panel will see sense and judge that the sending off was sufficient.
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| Quote ="violetrwb"Fair comment I'd say. Wigan had to be off their game and Wakey on their best form. Tomkins was brilliant.'"
Coughed the ball up 3 times in the tackle got a penalty each time scored off 2 .he's over protected by officials and gets away with things others would be penalized.When he gathered the kick near the end he led with his feet and knees high but nothing.........but then it is sir Tomkins of RFL.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"I agree we dont respect the ball at all. I am all for expansive rugby but we do not respect posession and our defence is not good enough not to respect possession. Its worrying Agar never mentions this after the games. As for using the squad better i am so peeved off with the [size=200MAriano[/size thing. [size=200Agar has his favourites without doubt.[/size'"
Not alone on that one is he
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"That’s a decent effort,what with Wigan being on fire of late & Poore letting his teammates down again.
It’s the points we’ve dropped this season against Huddersfield, Catalan, Salford & Hull that’s cheesed me off, that’s seven points thrown away, today was always a extremely tall order.'"
Poor comment, excuse the pun. As far as I can tell he was sent off for defending himself with a better punch than his attacker. As for the "again" comment, are you really including that boxing day friendly, I mean really.
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"Coughed the ball up 3 times in the tackle got a penalty each time scored off 2 .he's over protected by officials and gets away with things others would be penalized.When he gathered the kick near the end he led with his feet and knees high but nothing.........but then it is sir Tomkins of RFL.
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He's no angel. However he was the beating heart for most of the good hat Wigan produced. He is world class and it showed. Pretty much beat us on his own.
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| Farrell went down far too easily.
Probably deserved to get dropped after ragging Poore's collar, sticking his knee in and going for him first
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| Quote ="W.T.W"Farrell went down far too easily.
Probably deserved to get dropped after ragging Poore's collar, sticking his knee in and going for him first
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What did Poore deserve then after leading with his forearm/elbow into our defenders faces, twice?
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"What did Poore deserve then after leading with his forearm/elbow into our defenders faces, twice?'"
People carry the ball in different ways, if Farrell wanted to avoid an Elbow or a Forearm he should of moved his head or even better tackled his legs!
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| Quote ="The Dreadnought"People carry the ball in different ways, if Farrell wanted to avoid an Elbow or a Forearm he should of moved his head or even better tackled his legs!'"
Sorry but that's a ridiculous comment.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"icon_lol.gif Sorry but that's a ridiculous comment.'"
May be ridiculous but at the end of the day he always carries it in the same way and you're the first to complain about it even though your players were unaffected apart from a crack on the chin.
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| looking at it as a fan, you'd probably say Poore's reaction was justiyable.
As a team-mate, would their opinion be either
A: wow what a punch, he had it coming
B: FFS Justin
I'll let you decide....
Punching is a sending off offence, simple as that. Demz De Rules.
Whether Farrell's, ahem, "effort" is deemed to be a punch by the disciplinary matter, only time will tell.
Ref clearly didn't think it was a punch otherwsie (I would hope) he'd have sent him off.
Either way, the "lovely punch" as it has been deemed has done you guys no favours in the following weeks.
I also think Poore will be on the receiving end of much more niggling and provocation from smarter opponents, as he has proved on more than one occasion he can't control himself at times.
On the plus side, Wakefield played like that for 69 minutes against (for me) the best side by a mile for finding gaps..... Great effort!
Though I'm sure your forwards won't be as fresh as a daisy this morning..... Except Ali, of course, who only played about 15 minutes???????????
Am I missing something there?
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"looking at it as a fan, you'd probably say Poore's reaction was justiyable.
As a team-mate, would their opinion be either
A: wow what a punch, he had it coming
B: FFS Justin
I'll let you decide....
Punching is a sending off offence, simple as that. Demz De Rules.
Whether Farrell's, ahem, "effort" is deemed to be a punch by the disciplinary matter, only time will tell.
Ref clearly didn't think it was a punch otherwsie (I would hope) he'd have sent him off.
Either way, the "lovely punch" as it has been deemed has done you guys no favours in the following weeks.
I also think Poore will be on the receiving end of much more niggling and provocation from smarter opponents, as he has proved on more than one occasion he can't control himself at times.
On the plus side, Wakefield played like that for 69 minutes against (for me) the best side by a mile for finding gaps..... Great effort!
Though I'm sure your forwards won't be as fresh as a daisy this morning..... Except Ali, of course, who only played about 15 minutes???????????
Am I missing something there?'"
Fair points, however as a fan I woulden't of wanted Poore chinning Farrell as he will be missing for a few games now. But whats done is done, no point making a fuss about it all we can do is hope he doesnt get a long match ban.
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"looking at it as a fan, you'd probably say Poore's reaction was justiyable.
As a team-mate, would their opinion be either
A: wow what a punch, he had it coming
B: FFS Justin
I'll let you decide....
Punching is a sending off offence, simple as that. Demz De Rules.
Whether Farrell's, ahem, "effort" is deemed to be a punch by the disciplinary matter, only time will tell.
Ref clearly didn't think it was a punch otherwsie (I would hope) he'd have sent him off.
Either way, the "lovely punch" as it has been deemed has done you guys no favours in the following weeks.
I also think Poore will be on the receiving end of much more niggling and provocation from smarter opponents, as he has proved on more than one occasion he can't control himself at times.
On the plus side, Wakefield played like that for 69 minutes against (for me) the best side by a mile for finding gaps..... Great effort!
Though I'm sure your forwards won't be as fresh as a daisy this morning..... Except Ali, of course, who only played about 15 minutes???????????
Am I missing something there?'"
I think that's a pretty good and fair summary.
How did Cas get on?
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| One more thing on the Farrell punch, we got the penalty but I don't know what he gave it for! Anyone see Hicks' signal?
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| I wasn't at the game due to work and not really being bothered lol but we did exceptionally well to keep a team to 40 points this week!!!!!
Hopefully Poore's 1/2 match ban will be an eye-opener to him and will come back fresh.
I dunno of his disciplinary record in Aus so can't really say either way
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"I wasn't at the game due to work and not really being bothered lol but we did exceptionally well to keep a team to 40 points this week!!!!!
Hopefully Poore's 1/2 match ban will be an eye-opener to him and will come back fresh.
I dunno of his disciplinary record in Aus so can't really say either way'"
I believe he never got sent off in AUS, not 100% though.
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| Lets face it, if we still had Hock, and he did the same thing that Poore did you lot would want him hanged outside of the stadium.
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| Quote ="Bluenosewarrior"Lets face it, if we still had Hock, and he did the same thing that Poore did you lot would want him hanged outside of the stadium.'"
I don't think that there's any comparison. Hock is a coke headed perpetual offender, next to him Poore's in line for Nobel peace prize.
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| What goes around comes around.
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| One thing between Poore and Hock - ones an honest, hard working and a little short tempered former SOO forward, the other is a cheating, eye gouging coke sniffing thug.
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| Quote ="Willzay"One thing between Poore and Hock - ones an honest, hard working and a little short tempered former SOO forward, the other is a cheating, eye gouging coke sniffing thug.'"
Not denying that, and that's not even the point. The point is that if it was the other way round you lot would be baying for blood. And rightly so.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"What did Poore deserve then after leading with his forearm/elbow into our defenders faces, twice?'"
Was that an invisible forearm or a real one.
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| Quote ="Bluenosewarrior"Not denying that, and that's not even the point. The point is that if it was the other way round you lot would be baying for blood. And rightly so.'"
Not me. I think Poore and Farrell were guilty of the same offence; namely striking. The fact that one did it with more skill should be broadly immaterial in the eyes of the officials. You could even argue that Farrell's offence was far worse, given that it followed him shoving his arm in Poore's face in the tackle, dropping his knee on him and then striking first.
I'm certainly not saying what Poore did was right, but it was understandable. Should he just have stood there and waited for the second and third shots from Farrell? You tell me.
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| Either way it was a cracking punch
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| Quote ="Bluenosewarrior"Lets face it, if we still had Hock, and he did the same thing that Poore did you lot would want him hanged outside of the stadium.'"
Nope its a big boys game, farell came looking for it and got. Trouble is farrel isn't a big boy.
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