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| Quote ="chissitt"Your first 2 paragraphs' seem to contradict themselves. Your third paragraph not really sure of your point assuming there is one. And finally the posters' that were debating with Vastman were not exactly fawning over him, just pointing out how good he was. Which incidently you have pointed out to us in other threads' where it was your good self that was actually fawning over him. Try not to muddy the water all the time and admit you dont always get it right for once. Everybody knows how good Barrett and Bird is but they dont always want it ramming down their throat.'"
How do the first 2 paragraphs contradict themselves?
And if you do not think 2 Australian Internationals are top class players I am glad you are not a scout for Wakefield!
I do not fawn over him but i would have loved to see him at Wigan or Wakefield as he is a top class player. who i have seen take teams apart in the best league in the world on his own, that is not opinion or fawning just fact........along with the fact i was not debating with Vasty about Bird's performance of Sunday.
I am certain i never get it right all the once nobody does, been wrong twice on here in the last 6 or so years.
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| Quote ="jonh"How do the first 2 paragraphs contradict themselves?
And if you do not think 2 Australian Internationals are top class players I am glad you are not a scout for Wakefield!
I am certain i never get it right all the once nobody does, been wrong twice on here in the last 6 or so years.
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Read them again and see
Are you having difficulty in reading if you look closely you will see that I said the 2 aussies' are top class
Course you have pet when your wrong your right. I recall a poster asking you if you had 1 leg shorter than the other and when you asked why he replied because you are going round in circles. you have certainly battered me into submission the only advice I can offer you is if the Latics ask you to be a defender for them take the job clearly nothing gets past you. And before you send a 3 page reply take it as a compliment and not an insult
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| Correct me if i am wrong Vasty said he did not see anything in his performance to get excited about or something along those lines, i was not in a postion to bedate that as i did not see the performance.
He then said Barrett "Trent Barrett underperformed for Wigan in virtually every match he played in especially the big ones", which is where i entered the conversation as i disagreed with it, supporting my disagreement with a reasoned line of thought.
I then offered an opinion on Greg Bird as the thread was about him predicting he will be a good signing for Les Cats as he is a quality player, a World Class player infact, based on watching the NRL for the last few years.
I never offered an opinion on his performance against Wakefield, as i said on several times i had never seen it.
Its funny the lengths some will go to to try to discredit someone, for posting a reasoned well presented view.
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| Quote ="vastman"Come on - Trent Barrett underperformed for Wigan in virtually every match he played in especially the big ones. He was always one of there better performers as you would expect, but IMO never lived up to expectation. However both of us are entitled to our opinions on that player as we both saw him play in SL regularily. One of us is right one is wrong...'"
Absolute tosh. Barrett should have been MOS two years ago - instead it was given to a part-timer, who is no-where near the force he was then
Quote ="vastman"In the case of Bird what you are saying isn't even opinion it's pure speculation based on reputation and that is where you and a few others have lost it. Saying if Wigan had Bird they would be better, again pure speculation - no matter how good a player is there is no guarantee. Sure you'd expect them to be better, when they signed Barrett you would have expected a trophy or two. This really is grass is greener stuff.'"
Not at all. I, like almost everyone on here, believe that I can spot talent when I see it. I believe he is talented and that he has the ability to turn an average side into a ggod one.
Quote ="vastman"If you are seriously suggesting you saw enough on sunday to confirm your belief then all I can say is please give me your guess for next weeks lottery.
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I saw enough - i.e. past tense. That does not mean I can predict the dropping of balls!
We don't agree - move on will ya!
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"Clearly on the sauce, but spot on with that one....
P.S. This is ALL YOUR FAULT!!!
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I've just swapped Smokey for Jonh, still can't get it 100% right but not a bad effort
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| Quote ="kingsway cat"Has any one of our players generated an 11 page topic?'"
Already been mentioned that, but the debate on this has made it longer as some people can not accept others opinions
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| Quote ="jonh"How do the first 2 paragraphs contradict themselves?
And if you do not think 2 Australian Internationals are top class players I am glad you are not a scout for Wakefield!
I do not fawn over him but i would have loved to see him at Wigan or Wakefield as he is a top class player. who i have seen take teams apart in the best league in the world on his own, that is not opinion or fawning just fact........along with the fact i was not debating with Vasty about Bird's performance of Sunday.
I am certain i never get it right all the once nobody does, been wrong twice on here in the last 6 or so years.
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I doubt it Jonh.
The amount of guff you come out with at times but thats for another day.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"I doubt it Jonh.
The amount of guff you come out with at times
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No i am wrong occasionally, hard to believe i know........and we were all getting on so well since christmas
Funny how my views on Bird were welcomed when he was linked to Trinity
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| Quote ="adam9641"At the end of the day we all have diff opinions and no ones is wrong. If you thought he was great then good for you but not everyone has to think that.'"
I have never denied anyone an opinion - no matter how rubbish it is!
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| Quote ="jonh"No i am wrong occasionally, hard to believe i know........and we were all getting on so well since christmas
Funny how my views on Bird were welcomed when he was linked to Trinity
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Due to the bottle you sent me and thats empty now so just watch it.
Your views are always welcome on here.
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| have you got nightclubs in Wakefield
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| Absolute tosh. Barrett should have been MOS two years ago - instead it was given to a part-timer, who is no-where near the force he was then
Not at all. I, like almost everyone on here, believe that I can spot talent when I see it. I believe he is talented and that he has the ability to turn an average side into a ggod one.
:2pbxrn8gPerhaps:2pbxrn8g
I saw enough - i.e. past tense. That does not mean I can predict the dropping of balls!
:2pbxrn8gSurprises me:2pbxrn8g
We don't agree - move on will ya!
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| I havn't read all the threads, and if already stated then sorry.
He was refused a visa(work permit or summat) to play in UK, and some would say he honoured that . I personally think he did well off the back of a time lagging trip hours before.
But should we be having this debate in the first place?
Should he only be allowed to play home games?
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Awesome - no really, what the hell does that say abot Catalan and the state of French RL. You really do have a curious idea as to what is good for our game
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Awesome - no really, what the hell does that say abot Catalan and the state of French RL. You really do have a curious idea as to what is good for our game
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| Quote ="vastman" You really do have a curious idea as to what is good for our game
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Where have i said its good for our game
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Good for him. Just because he is captain don't mean he is playing great.
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Good for him. Just because he is captain don't mean he is playing great.
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| Quote ="adam9641"Good for him. Just because he is captain don't mean he is playing great.'"
I think Mwildcats is just pointing it out.
All other captains would give anything to be able to command the respect OURS does, it would be a honour to stand next to him in the defensive line knowing you can't hide.
Good innit
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