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| Quote ="The Trip"I know the club cannot take legal representation on the decision because they all signed not to do so. But if people lose their jobs over this, what is to stop these people seeking legal recourse on the RFL's decision (at least legal aid would be used properlyicon_smile.gif) and expose what a mickey mouse scam that the RFL have pulled with the Crusaders deal. Believe me it is and needs bringing out in the open.I only wish I could say more.'"
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Sorry..but this is what I don't understand. If there is such underhand ,disgusting scams taking place then why is it not in the open?. What have Wakey or even all the other clubs got to lose?. I can only guess as to what is going on , but I have been following the goings on at Wrexham for a while now and it looks appalling!.
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A debt free club will be axed in favour of a club thats in MASSIVE debt, and the reason is the debts owed to the RFL, you could not make it up.
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The injustice of it all is really getting me down.....whatever is known needs telling IMO.
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Well we may as well all have a read of this to get us to sleep tonight and wonder just what we could have done with £701,000 of the RFL's money 
ftp://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/image/ ... 475996.pdf
You will notice the debt to the RFL is unsecured and if you look at the New Company W Crusaders Ltd it has a share issue capital of £100.
Therefore the only reason the RFL are keeping the pretend welsh team in the comp is to claw back the debt. In Theory !!!! But they have a business that is leaking money and going nowhere the whole admin document tells you that.
Another question that would be nice to ask the RFL is; Who were paying the Wages for Noble,Harris and Sharp ? Well in excess of 200k !!
Classic other points to look out for are 2.7 to 2.10
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Well we may as well all have a read of this to get us to sleep tonight and wonder just what we could have done with £701,000 of the RFL's money
ftp://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/image/ ... 475996.pdf
You will notice the debt to the RFL is unsecured and if you look at the New Company W Crusaders Ltd it has a share issue capital of £100.
Therefore the only reason the RFL are keeping the pretend welsh team in the comp is to claw back the debt. In Theory !!!! But they have a business that is leaking money and going nowhere the whole admin document tells you that.
Another question that would be nice to ask the RFL is; Who were paying the Wages for Noble,Harris and Sharp ? Well in excess of 200k !!
Classic other points to look out for are 2.7 to 2.10
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Quote ="The Trip"Well we may as well all have a read of this to get us to sleep tonight and wonder just what we could have done with £701,000 of the RFL's money
ftp://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/image/ ... 475996.pdf
You will notice the debt to the RFL is unsecured and if you look at the New Company W Crusaders Ltd it has a share issue capital of £100.
Therefore the only reason the RFL are keeping the pretend welsh team in the comp is to claw back the debt. In Theory !!!! But they have a business that is leaking money and going nowhere the whole admin document tells you that.
Another question that would be nice to ask the RFL is; Who were paying the Wages for Noble,Harris and Sharp ? Well in excess of 200k !!
A 2 year old could challenge this in court and win
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That is awful reading. It reminds me of when I read O'Hara's report on us.
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Quote ="The Trip"Well we may as well all have a read of this to get us to sleep tonight and wonder just what we could have done with £701,000 of the RFL's money
ftp://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/image/ ... 475996.pdf
You will notice the debt to the RFL is unsecured and if you look at the New Company W Crusaders Ltd it has a share issue capital of £100.
Therefore the only reason the RFL are keeping the pretend welsh team in the comp is to claw back the debt. In Theory !!!! But they have a business that is leaking money and going nowhere the whole admin document tells you that.
Another question that would be nice to ask the RFL is; Who were paying the Wages for Noble,Harris and Sharp ? Well in excess of 200k !!
A 2 year old could challenge this in court and win
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That is awful reading. It reminds me of when I read O'Hara's report on us.
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"Does not paying players count?
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never has done so why should it be important now - ask Tony Duggan & co........ |
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This debt to RFL now over a million as they are paying the players wages, though difficult for us to contest that as they paid ours for a couple of months too.
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| Quote ="feline"This debt to RFL now over a million as they are paying the players wages, though difficult for us to contest that as they paid ours for a couple of months too.'"
So the RFL are paying their players wagers now can anybody see cru lasting another season never mind 3 |
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"So the RFL are paying their players wagers now can anybody see cru lasting another season never mind 3'"
I'd be the first to admit that the day to day running of the club is shambolic here in Wrexham, but as far as we know and it is still only a rumour, it is the football team players who haven't been paid. Can you really see the rfl paying their wages?
It appears that the Quinns may have been given yet another free pass so lets all put the boot into the Crusaders instead. Lets not even bother to wait until the offical announcencement is made.  |
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| Quote ="boost"I'd be the first to admit that the day to day running of the club is shambolic here in Wrexham, but as far as we know and it is still only a rumour, it is the football team players who haven't been paid. Can you really see the rfl paying their wages?
It appears that the Quinns may have been given yet another free pass so lets all put the boot into the Crusaders instead. Lets not even bother to wait until the offical announcencement is made.
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No disrespect but while we've had our problems they almost pale into insignificance in comparison to the 3 year pantomime at Crusaders.
I feel for the true Rugby League fans in Wrexham just as I do for our fans but when comparing the two franchises Wakefield should not be the ones facing the chop.
I don't know whether the Wrexham FC players have been paid, it wouldn't surprise me to find out they hav'nt, but I can 100% confirm that the Crusaders players have not been paid by the club for about 3 months. |
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| Quote ="The Clan"I can 100% confirm that the Crusaders players have not been paid by the club for about 3 months.'"
if you really are going on sky sports this am - then you should say this. |
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| Quote ="The Clan"No disrespect but while we've had our problems they almost pale into insignificance in comparison to the 3 year pantomime at Crusaders.
I feel for the true Rugby League fans in Wrexham just as I do for our fans but when comparing the two franchises Wakefield should not be the ones facing the chop.
I don't know whether the Wrexham FC players have been paid, it wouldn't surprise me to find out they hav'nt, but I can 100% confirm that the Crusaders players have not been paid by the club for about 3 months.'"
Ridiculous and scandalous.
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| Quote ="The Clan"No disrespect but while we've had our problems they almost pale into insignificance in comparison to the 3 year pantomime at Crusaders.
I feel for the true Rugby League fans in Wrexham just as I do for our fans but when comparing the two franchises Wakefield should not be the ones facing the chop.
I don't know whether the Wrexham FC players have been paid, it wouldn't surprise me to find out they hav'nt, but I can 100% confirm that the Crusaders players have not been paid by the club for about 3 months.'"
The players that attended the Supporters Club BBQ seemed happy enough thanks. |
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Crusaders players haven't been paid again this week !!
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| Quote ="Wildcatfan"Crusaders players haven't been paid again this week !!'"
be a bout right,,,,i just hope the boys go on sunday and give the welsh a good hiding if ever there loyal fans deserve it its on sunday |
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| Quote ="boost"The players that attended the Supporters Club BBQ seemed happy enough thanks.'"
you could fit all the supporters in my shed, without having to move the mower.
the players may have seemed happy enough, they'll get their money, and they have secure employment for next year. i'd say the next three years, but nobody can say it's secure, as the crusaders may not stumble on for much longer. |
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| Quote ="gowerthegroap"Hey hey hey, I won't hear such slander against such an upstanding member of the Rugby Football League!!
Does it matter that they have no money?
Does it make any difference that they don't even know where they will be playing next season?
Does anyone pay a jot of notice that their crowds are appalling? that their team is a raft of foreigners? that they lurch from one town to the next leaving only an inprint of their financial meltdown?
Does anyone care that they are bottom of the league?
How can anyone question their players skill and commitment (when they reportedly don't get paid)?
How dare anyone claim that their owners don't even want them, that nobody wants them, that their very admission alone is solely judged against an attempt by the RFL to recoup a £700k loan.
Don't tell me that their location doesn't warrant the title "expansion club"... even though they are only 30miles away from the very heartland area that the game is supposed to be expanding out of.
Who says the Welsh USP is a gimmick? Look at the success it has generated, the support it has galvanised for the game of Rugby League... around Cheshire.
What part of this doesn't say 3 more years?'"
It was very much the same 3 years ago when Widnes were overlooked because of them. Don't expect any favours from the RFL because expansion is king.
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was talking to the landlord in my local who is from south wales and his comment was " there is rugby and that other game...football.. in south wales and it is even worse in the north! he doesn't reckon they will ever get people in numbers to watch!
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| Quote ="Wildcatfan"Crusaders players haven't been paid again this week !!'"
They get paid monthly! |
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| Quote ="boost"They get paid monthly!'"
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| Quote ="boost"They get paid monthly!'"
No disrespect to you or the other two Crusaders fans, but do you honestly, genuinely, truthfully believe that your club should be in SL over us or Cas? |
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The whole Wrexham/Crusaders thing is a mess and its scandalous that they'll get the nod and we won't.
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It makes you wonder who actually pulled the plug in the end. The RFL or the Crusaders? There was so many holes in the argument for them to choose the Crusaders that in the end the RFL have taken the safer option.
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