Also all the roads around the site are urban clearways so when the day comes the ground gets built and used, anybody trying to park on the kirb will be clamped.

Asda will do what they do at Wigan (and Tesco at Warrington), employ parking wardens on match days and prevent people from parking on the site who look to be 'going to the Rugby'. They may also employ a receipt ratification policy or install parking ticket machines and barriers which they only use on match days.

As far as I am aware yes, that has been dealt with. bigalf may have the detail on this?

BigAlf?

Trains are every hour but don't let facts get in the way!

Do Xscape really think that there'll be more than 880 car users? If we assume that all those cars will be full that equates to roughly 3500 people. Considering crowds are around 7000 at the moment, do they really think 50% of our crowds come with cars or will use cars?

People from Ponty can walk/jump on a bus/catch the train.
People from Cas can walk
People from Knottla can catch train
People from GH can walk
People from Leeds can catch train


It's only from further afield like Wigan/Saints/Hull where they will drive.

Next up...

Can you prove that black is white? I reckon you can - based on what you've written there!

It's all very good this train lark - but you've got some serious habit changing to take place first. Also, to think that all 880 cars will be full, and that that is all there will be, is just bonkers.

I can't see the objections being any more than negotiating positions - so I don't think you'll have any major issues.

Just because they 'can' doesn't mean they will.

Anyway, I hope it all goes well for you lot.

People can walk, but these days most choose not to. I know people who could walk to work faster than they could driive - but do they? Do they pot! Theres loads of room round there for car parks, I can't really see this being a 'game-breaker', and look forward to seeing your stadium starting to appear over the coming months. If Xscape are genuinely worried about loss of custom the club could offer space in the programmes for money off vouchers to get fans in after the game!

all this time they have backed the idea that families can take the day out shopping go watch the match and then go to xscape seems to be coming back to haunt them, not as straight forward as it seems to develop new areas

xscape will definitely pick up some extra business on matchdays, certainly the bars anyway for sure, its the old pubs down wheldon road and in town that will suffer.
parking has to be an issue, its chocca already around xscape on a weekend but I would expect xscape and asda to do as they have in Wigan , where the retail park dont allow rugby parking and have wardens to police it.
anyway, I have to say this thread has restored my faith in genuine rugby fans , its appreciated and reciprocated
didnt think anyone from cas could spell a word that long did you?

Obviously from the posh side of cas (Airedale)

TBH Kingy i thought about locking this thread but i'm glad i didn't (so far) just shows that adults can chew the fat without resorting to petty squabbles.

Cas and Wakey fans debating the ins and outs, well i never

Cas will be at Wheldon rd in 2012 season think they will bullsh*t the RFL to get a franchise again.

Cas will be at Wheldon road in 2012 but if they have a stadium that work has already begun ready to move into for 2013 then i think this will be enough to satify the RFL.

I personally believe Cas will get planning permission and will have started work in time for their application and unfortunatly for us i think they will get a franchise ahead of us. That said however, there is still plenty of water to pass under the bridge.

If only planning decisions were that simple; when it comes to travel & transport issues, they don't base their decisions on what people can or should do, they base them on what people actually do, and they infer knowledge about what people actually do using some fairly arcane methodology.

I've just had to pay a specialist consultant a considerable sum of money to produce a travel plan for a development I'm in involved in, to demonstrate to the WMDC Highways bods the number of vehicular journeys the development will attract when it's complete. I know already, because I run 13 sites with similar developments in other parts of the country, but my simple logic didn't even come close to satisfying the Highways Depts' requirements.

Well im going to upset them and email and tell them that they need an extra 20,000 car parking spaces for when the Hull Kingston Rovers hit town,what with us bringing 5 million fans per game.lol.

Quote ="Fully"Trains are every hour but don't let facts get in the way! Do Xscape really think that there'll be more than 880 car users? If we assume that all those cars will be full that equates to roughly 3500 people. Considering crowds are around 7000 at the moment, do they really think 50% of our crowds come with cars or will use cars? People from Ponty can walk/jump on a bus/catch the train. People from Cas can walk People from Knottla can catch train People from GH can walk People from Leeds can catch train It's only from further afield like Wigan/Saints/Hull where they will drive.'" Maybe you should check your fact first. Trains are every TWO hours from Leeds on a Sunday. www.wymetro.com/NR/rdonlyres/090 ... etable.pdf

Quote ="Fully"Trains are every hour but don't let facts get in the way! Do Xscape really think that there'll be more than 880 car users? If we assume that all those cars will be full that equates to roughly 3500 people. Considering crowds are around 7000 at the moment, do they really think 50% of our crowds come with cars or will use cars? People from Ponty can walk/jump on a bus/catch the train. People from Cas can walk People from Knottla can catch train People from GH can walk People from Leeds can catch train It's only from further afield like Wigan/Saints/Hull where they will drive.'" Maybe you should check your fact first. Trains are every TWO hours from Leeds on a Sunday. www.wymetro.com/NR/rdonlyres/090 ... etable.pdf

Quote ="The Clan"I don't want to get shot down for having a glance over the wrong side of the power station site but FPP isn't going to be the cake walk they thought it was. https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http ... .pdf&pli=1 Xscape not quite as on board as we're lead to believe and I have it on good authority that ASDA and possibly Freeport are set to object as well. I genuinely hope they can get this sorted out soon but it just goes to show that there are still many twists yet to come in the districts stadium sagas.'" Said it all along and was always shot down from both sides of the fence. Even dragged dispersal orders into the argument and the fact local establishments didn't want unwanted cars there.

Quote ="The Clan"I don't want to get shot down for having a glance over the wrong side of the power station site but FPP isn't going to be the cake walk they thought it was. https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http ... .pdf&pli=1 Xscape not quite as on board as we're lead to believe and I have it on good authority that ASDA and possibly Freeport are set to object as well. I genuinely hope they can get this sorted out soon but it just goes to show that there are still many twists yet to come in the districts stadium sagas.'" Said it all along and was always shot down from both sides of the fence. Even dragged dispersal orders into the argument and the fact local establishments didn't want unwanted cars there.

There is no reason as to why we won't get a franchise for the next few years.

Ok ill bite,
IF we delay our build how will this lead to Wakefield being in a stronger position than Cas ??

Thing is its not necessarily us you have to worry about, we know we are gonners. If your build is delayed then Halifax might just get the nod ahead of you yet.

I think you shouldn't get too complacent, just yet.
Just because you're confident you'll have a better bid than Wakefield doesn't mean you'll definitely get a license. Are you sure you'll beat Halifax/Widnes if they go to the second stage? Your application will be based on playing at Wheldon Road. Can you afford to lose those points?

How are clubs planning new or redeveloped stadia going to be assessed?

New stadiums or redevelopments of existing stadiums will only be taken into account if the RFL is satisfied that the stadium will be open or the redevelopment finished by the start of the 2012 season.
[urlhttp://www.therfl.co.uk/licensing/licensing_faqs[/url

Never fear I'm certainly not being too confident at all as I know things can bite you when you least expect it. I think Widnes will get a chance this time around especially as St. Helens will be in their new stadium but not at all sure about Halifax. We'll all just have to wait and see what is decided in July this this year.