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| Max is a smart player with pace and good hands
Fancy he might have a decent future at stand off .. he might relish the extra responsibility
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| Quote ="Spookdownunder"Max is a smart player with pace and good hands
Fancy he might have a decent future at stand off .. he might relish the extra responsibility'"
I think that has more legs than making him a centre, it's possible but with no A team to try it out we may never know - scrapping A team is possibly the most short sited move ever in SL and that's saying something!
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| 6 for him could work.
However Grix wont be playing forever, would rather him work closely with Scott and develop further.
What would be good for 6 or 7, or both, would be for us to unearth gems from the junior set up
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| As far as I'm aware he's played full back since he was very young and has shown he's good enough to play there in SL. At the minute he's been kept out of the team by Scott Grix because he's playing well. Big deal, Max is either 19 or 20 and Grix isn't getting any younger. His time will come. Why the obsession with playing people out of position?
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| Quote ="jakeyg95"As far as I'm aware he's played full back since he was very young and has shown he's good enough to play there in SL. At the minute he's been kept out of the team by Scott Grix because he's playing well. Big deal, Max is either 19 or 20 and Grix isn't getting any younger. His time will come. Why the obsession with playing people out of position?'"
At some stage of the season Max will get his opportunity for whatever reason, till then Wakey fans must realise that atm Grix is too good for him to get in and sentiment should not play any part in it.
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| Quote ="dickie mint"At some stage of the season Max will get his opportunity for whatever reason, till then Wakey fans must realise that atm Grix is too good for him to get in and sentiment should not play any part in it.'"
Agree with this but if you'd asked me prior to the season starting MJ every time at fullback! BUT Grix has made me eat my words and I'm very pleased about it.
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| Quote ="jakeyg95"As far as I'm aware he's played full back since he was very young and has shown he's good enough to play there in SL. At the minute he's been kept out of the team by Scott Grix because he's playing well. Big deal, Max is either 19 or 20 and Grix isn't getting any younger. His time will come. Why the obsession with playing people out of position?'"
He's been a caterpillar since he was young; why the obsession in wanting to see what kind of butterfly he will be???
Shaun Edwards began at full back
Darren Lockyer began at full back
Anthony Milford began at full back
Other players begin on the wing and travel too full back
Joe Lydon
Roger Tuavasa-Sheck
Greg Inglis
Valentine Holmes...
Who's to say a talent like Tom Johnstone won't make the same move eventually???
Obsession... no! Interest in discussing skill sets and application yes!
Isn't that what these forums are for?
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| Quote ="Spookdownunder"He's been a caterpillar since he was young; why the obsession in wanting to see what kind of butterfly he will be???
Shaun Edwards began at full back
Darren Lockyer began at full back
Anthony Milford began at full back
Other players begin on the wing and travel too full back
Joe Lydon
Roger Tuavasa-Sheck
Greg Inglis
Valentine Holmes...
Who's to say a talent like Tom Johnstone won't make the same move eventually???
Obsession... no! Interest in discussing skill sets and application yes!
Isn't that what these forums are for?'"
Wing to fullback is a small step but no big deal for most but only as a runner.
Sean Edwards was always a half back. They played him at full back to bring him in when he was younger.
Lockyer is just a world class rugby player who could do either position well.
So of course Max could but I haven't seen anything that makes me think he will.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Wing to fullback is a small step but no big deal for most but only as a runner.
Sean Edwards was always a half back. They played him at full back to bring him in when he was younger.
Lockyer is just a world class rugby player who could do either position well.
So of course Max could but I haven't seen anything that makes me think he will.'"
valid points all!
except I think I have seen something in him which would work well with more ball in hand... often full backs in attack are used as a second stand off... and Max does that well! oh, and Lockyer was a class player who worked harder at his game than the other class players around... a bit like Cameron Smith.
I loved the quote from Smith about his early days in Melbourne...I think it was also Craig Bellamy's first pre season... apparently after one training session Bellamy called him to one side.. Smith was happy that he had easily completed another set of tough conditioning and ball sessions... Bellamy said to him; 'you look like you are out there just trying to survive to the end of the training session... in future I want you to use each training session as a focus to improve yourself as a player!'
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| Quote ="Spookdownunder"valid points all!
except I think I have seen something in him which would work well with more ball in hand... often full backs in attack are used as a second stand off... and Max does that well! oh, and Lockyer was a class player who worked harder at his game than the other class players around... a bit like Cameron Smith.
I loved the quote from Smith about his early days in Melbourne...I think it was also Craig Bellamy's first pre season... apparently after one training session Bellamy called him to one side.. Smith was happy that he had easily completed another set of tough conditioning and ball sessions... Bellamy said to him; 'you look like you are out there just trying to survive to the end of the training session... in future I want you to use each training session as a focus to improve yourself as a player!''"
I totally agree with you, one of the dumbest of the many dumb quotes on here is "he's not a xxxx he's a xxxx) as if your born to a position utter tosh.
I agree that Fifita is unlikely to ever make a scrum half but other than prob most other players could theoretically play anywhere. I mean some scrum halves are six foot these days.
The thing with Max is why the panic - he's 20 and not a regular first teamed - wow. He's got a gremlin in his game - wow. He's all the time in the world and imho he'll have a much better career and live if he has to wait a little.
Grix hasn't got that long left as a player so the chance will com. What max needs to worry is what's coming through the academy right now - that's his real problem.
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| Went to oxford today to watch Jordan and Max against York. A cracking victory for Oxford. A try for Max and missed just one kick , both had a solid game and Max took a right head shot whilst dealing with a bomb which looked serious but fortunately recovered to carry on, both waiting for their chance hopefully sooner than later
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| I would guess both will be in the 19 for either Wigan or Warrington games..
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"Went to oxford today to watch Jordan and Max against York. A cracking victory for Oxford. A try for Max and missed just one kick , both had a solid game and Max took a right head shot whilst dealing with a bomb which looked serious but fortunately recovered to carry on, both waiting for their chance hopefully sooner than later
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It's really important that Chester gets best use from his squad, especially having Easter and it's associated hangover to get through.
Although hindsight is a wonderful thing, I thought that he might of rested a couple of regulars for the Widnes game.
Having said that there is plenty of competition for places at the moment and we have quite a few waiting for their chance.
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| Young Brad Moules went well in the hooking role, sorry for not mentioning it earlier Brad and Scott Fleming , who was with us, guided Oxford around the park well.
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| Will they be going to Toronto with Oxford in may?
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| Quote ="djcool"Will they be going to Toronto with Oxford in may?'"
Don't know about that one, do they do weekend trips
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"It's really important that Chester gets best use from his squad, especially having Easter and it's associated hangover to get through.
Although hindsight is a wonderful thing, I thought that he might of rested a couple of regulars for the Widnes game.
Having said that there is plenty of competition for places at the moment and we have quite a few waiting for their chance.'"
Chester had said he was targeting 3 wins from 5 which were; catalans, Widnes, Cas, Wigan, Warrington. There's no doubt in my mind that Catalans and Widnes were two of those three so Chester will have picked his most settled team to play them. I can see a few different faces possibly​ coming into the Cas game as that's one which would be nice to win instead of a targetted win
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| Id throw our strongest team against Castleford, haven't won them in a while now - think were due a win!
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| Quote ="The Dreadnought"Id throw our strongest team against Castleford, haven't won them in a while now - think were due a win!'"
Despite two really good performances against Les Cats and Widnes, I really can't see anything other than a comprehensive win for Cas - they're miles ahead of us at the moment.
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| Due to have an off day, fingers crossed.
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| Quote ="The Dreadnought"Id throw our strongest team against Castleford, haven't won them in a while now - think were due a win!'"
Maybe he might save his strongest side for Wigan, due to their injuries a win against them atom looks more likely than at Cas.
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| Quote ="dickie mint"Maybe he might save his strongest side for Wigan, due to their injuries a win against them atom looks more likely than at Cas.'"
Said on Friday night that I felt more confident in beating Wigan than Leeds. How times change.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Despite two really good performances against Les Cats and Widnes, I really can't see anything other than a comprehensive win for Cas - they're miles ahead of us at the moment.'"
At the time they were miles ahead of Salford, hope they have a similar performance!
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| Quote ="dickie mint"Maybe he might save his strongest side for Wigan, due to their injuries a win against them atom looks more likely than at Cas.'"
Much as it will hurt to get done by Cas (again) I'd go with that as well and throw all that we have at Wigan, who play Saints on Friday, their first game without Cunningham in charge, so it should be a bit tasty.
Of course, we'd love to beat Cas and Wigan but, I dont see that happening.
Mind you, IF we could beat Cas, confidence would be off the scale for Monday.
Over to you, Mr Chester.
Using the squad over Easter and the couple of weeks after, will define our season.
As I said on another thread, maybe we should have rested a couple for the Widnes game ??
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| If we turn up on the day there is no reason why we can't beat Castleford, Salford did it - 1-17 need to be on their game and have the correct mindset. Get on top of their forwards and don't give Gale any time with the ball (9/10 times he is influential in their moves).
Wigan the following Monday will be no walk in the park.
Castleford are a good side and the results so far show that we are too, lets not go understrength and get a cricket score put on us (that'll be good on the confidence wont it?) we have players that are abe to come in and replace knocks and niggles for the monday too.
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