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| For me one of the pleasing things yesterday was the game management towards the end of the game. In tight games like that we've conceded many times late on in the past but the experience heads in the camp like Grix and Finn seem to have much better control of the situation. I know it won't always be like that but I felt confident we'd see the game out and what a great feeling it was when we did.
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| TBH so far been massively underwhelmed by Pauli Pauli and horo. Pauli so far looks a bit of a show pony playing very low minutes and making a mistake one in three carries . Yes he looks like he should make a world beater but a long way short at moment . Horo had a total mare yesterday perhaps trying too hard against a former club . Reality is big Dave had a major game, once again England despite a knock was strong outiside backs in particular Johnstone were excellent.
The loss of wood had a massive impact and it was a hard fought win which a couple years ago we would have lost. Great start to season.
I would just question what Keegan Hirst has done to drop below huby and baldwinson in pecking order .
Huby is way short of match fit and contributed zilch, baldwinson is a grafter but at moment is a couple years away from his best .
Assuming wood misses out next week going to be very interesting to see the team , at minute pack isn’t giving halves much of a platform. We are relying on our defence which has been excellent and supreme moments of brilliance from Dave Tom Bill.
Personally if woods out would move aronA to hooker hooker , bring in Hirst , annikin and kirmond and give huby a couple run outs st dewsbury
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"It was a well fought game, and did very well to come back with the points.
Catalans certainly showed up and made us work for it.
[uAgain too many penalties, but more worryingly, most, seemed by the same player.[/u It could be trying too hard, or trying to settle a few scores.
He was our signing of intent, but not convinced yet. I said at the time I would rather see Batch, Jordy or Annakin more game time, and at the moment I feel the same. Early days yet to be binned off as Chris Chesters worse signing as someone put earlier, only time will tell.
Hope it does work out as I don't like negativity as it can cause friction in camp, and we are trying to build a stable group. The frustrating thing for all concerned should it not work, there is a quota spot here at stake.'"
As you say it was a hard fought game fought out mainly in the forwards, the penalty count was 8-8 and considering the intensity of the game it was quite low really, it might interest you to know that the player you seem to have most doubts about gave away three penalties in the full eighty minutes he played and was also the 2nd top tackler in the game as well as making plenty of carry's with the ball , he certainly would not be a candidate for the player of the match but at the same on the basis of one game your criticism seems a bit harsh, the club is stable both on and off the field and anyone bar you can see the players' are tight, and as for being Chester's worst signing you want to change your chip shop.
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| Baldwinson didn't miss a tackle yesterday. I think I'd give him another go.
England has been top notch in all areas. He has the best tackle completion % for the team.
Big Dave is swatting players off at will and is 3rd highest prop for carries in the whole league.
Pauli Pauli is finding his feet but at least 3 tries have come from him bouncing someone on their and then off loading. TJs came from him.
I think we are stuttering because of the injuries and forced switching of players at hooker. Once we are settled there we'll kick on.
Second row is not functioning quite as well as it has been. Ashurst and Arona are getting through a tonne of work but none of them is getting the running chances. Something to work on.
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"Hope your son is ok.'"
Thanks
I'm sure hell be fine, he's got a concussion, biggest worry for us was that we only booked our flights Friday morning after only finding out Friday he was playing, so we went to and from Toulouse Saturday and Sunday morning, which meant he had to make his own way home from Mancheste, thankfully one of our friends was on the flight and they helped out and got him sorted, he's a bit sore today and not in full training tomorrow but should make a full speedy recovery.
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| anyone who saw horo play last year should of seen what we were getting.
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| Quote ="bren2k"The best player on the pitch by a country mile was Scott Grix - the lad is in the form of his life; it makes such a massive difference to know that the FB is safe as houses.'"
And I thought he was below par last night. His defence was shocking and a couple of times he seemed to slow the attack when he joined the line. I did think his support play was as good as ever, and you’d put your mortgage on him to take every high ball that goes up.
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"It was a well fought game, and did very well to come back with the points.
Catalans certainly showed up and made us work for it.
Again too many penalties, but more worryingly, most, seemed by the same player. It could be trying too hard, or trying to settle a few scores.
He was our signing of intent, but not convinced yet. I said at the time I would rather see Batch, Jordy or Annakin more game time, and at the moment I feel the same. Early days yet to be binned off as Chris Chesters worse signing as someone put earlier, only time will tell.
Hope it does work out as I don't like negativity as it can cause friction in camp, and we are trying to build a stable group. The frustrating thing for all concerned should it not work, there is a quota spot here at stake.'"
What negativity is this, you know whats going on in the camp do you?
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"And I thought he was below par last night. His defence was shocking and a couple of times he seemed to slow the attack when he joined the line. I did think his support play was as good as ever, and you’d put your mortgage on him to take every high ball that goes up.'"
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Did you not get any attention as a child?
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| Quote ="Kirmudgeonly"TBH so far been massively underwhelmed by Pauli Pauli and horo. Pauli so far looks a bit of a show pony playing very low minutes and making a mistake one in three carries . Yes he looks like he should make a world beater but a long way short at moment . Horo had a total mare yesterday perhaps trying too hard against a former club.'"
Horo had a mare in the penalty count, but otherwise he had a good game.
It seems obvious that Pauli Pauli is carrying an injury from the way his leg is strapped up, and he is playing in colder and muddier grounds than he is used to and after a long lay-off. He's going to get better as he gets fitter and the grounds get harder. He'll be a fan favourite by the end of the summer, and at least he is recovering his fitness against beatable teams and in games we are winning.
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"Did you not get any attention as a child?'"
More than you I suspect.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Horo had a mare in the penalty count, but otherwise he had a good game.
It seems obvious that Pauli Pauli is carrying an injury from the way his leg is strapped up, and he is playing in colder and muddier grounds than he is used to and after a long lay-off. He's going to get better as he gets fitter and the grounds get harder. He'll be a fan favourite by the end of the summer, and at least he is recovering his fitness against beatable teams and in games we are winning.'"
A couple of weeks ago Chester said Paulis knee was strapped up as a precaution from an old injury.
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"A couple of weeks ago Chester said Paulis knee was strapped up as a precaution from an old injury.'"
Yes I read that , am sure he will come good but at minute he’s probably our least effective forward / mainly due to low time on pitch ,
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| Quote ="vastman"That's way OTT . He was good in his first two games and then let the occasion get to him yesterday, that's a million miles away from 'big disappointment'. Its way to early write any player off, Ashurst has been pretty much invisible this year compared to last but I have no doubt he will come good when it counts, shall we write him off as well?'"
Yeah, I don't get the overreaction from some about Horo. Yes, he played poorly yesterday but that can happen to the best but personally, before that he'd played pretty good and was deserving of his place.
Someone mentioned they don't know why Hirst has been dropped down the pecking order, who says he has. CC just might be trying t manage his props and get some game time into the likes of Baldwinson. TBh though when I watched the reserves game I thought he might go for him over Hirst. He was just generally busier, ready to take the ball more and was faster into the tackle. Hirst is obviously a bigger man but Baldwinson is a good size Prop and with having so many giants he maybe thought we could do with a bit more pace in the front row.
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| Why change my chippy, probably one of the best in Wakefield, and they are passionate about the team too.
As for knowing what's going off, then no I don't, as probably not many on here do either Vasty, that is apart from you, but as you have pointed put on numerous occasions, too much negativity and idle gossip, can have a negative impact and disrupt the team.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Horo had a mare in the penalty count, but otherwise he had a good game.
It seems obvious that Pauli Pauli is carrying an injury from the way his leg is strapped up, and he is playing in colder and muddier grounds than he is used to and after a long lay-off. He's going to get better as he gets fitter and the grounds get harder. He'll be a fan favourite by the end of the summer, and at least he is recovering his fitness against beatable teams and in games we are winning.'"
As others have said CC said it's an old injury he straps up for precautionary reasons, nothing to do with the leg break or the car crash. Agree with the rest. Wood in an interview said he'd come over missing a fair bit of preseason and wasn't as fit as he normally would be because of his leg break. So he's no doubt behind all the other players in terms of where they are in their fitness.
It seems obvious that CC is trying to ease him in gently over these first few games and with those gadgets on their back will be monitoring his progress as each game passes. Even at this point, you can see what he's going to bring when he hits peak form, he's already a complete handful for opposition defenses but isn't playing big enough minutes quite yet.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I think Horo has had a slow start with some pluses but more things to improve. It happens with new signings sometimes. It takes time to adjust.
His tackle success % is the lowest of all the forwards. I'm almost tempted to say the missed tackles stat needs a recount it is so high, but at the moment he is reading 16 missed and 96 completed.
His attack is better with an average gain of 5.96 metres which is only ok but ok.
He's made 2 errors with the ball and given 4 penalties away.
In summary I think it's a "Could do better" report.
But I've seen him do better so I think he's worth pursuing.
Stats sometimes hide players being targeted or players having to cover other weak defenders so is not the only consideration and he has only played 3 games so far so let's see how he develops.'"
So before yesterday he'd hardly made an error or given a penalty away. There's no doubt though after yesterday he could do better and as a guy coming into a new side, I'd expect him to gradually settle in more and improve. Saying that I wouldn't be surprised if next game CC may get Batchelor in for example. Just to say if you play poor and you can lose your place because we've got these young guns on your heels, just to keep the players on their toes.
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| Wakey don't even get a mention on the front page os League Express!
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| 3 wins from 3 and people are picking fault with individual players as though they watched every move they made in all 3, that's 3
just to emphasize 3, games
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"It was a well fought game, and did very well to come back with the points.
Catalans certainly showed up and made us work for it.
Again too many penalties, but more worryingly, most, seemed by the same player. It could be trying too hard, or trying to settle a few scores.
He was our signing of intent, but not convinced yet. I said at the time I would rather see Batch, Jordy or Annakin more game time, and at the moment I feel the same. Early days yet to be binned off as Chris Chesters worse signing as someone put earlier, only time will tell.
Hope it does work out as I don't like negativity as it can cause friction in camp, and we are trying to build a stable group. The frustrating thing for all concerned should it not work, there is a quota spot here at stake.'"
He's had one bad game. Get a grip.
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| Quote ="jakeyg95"He's had one bad game. Get a grip.'"
Agreed, but it was a real hum dinger stinker and could have cost us a very tight game. I expected a reduced penalty count with Kirmond taking a rest.
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| only real negative i see at the minute is how short our goal line drop outs are, i dont remember Grix taking them last season, but some on saturday seemed to be falling short of our 40m line putting us under instant pressure, think that needs sorting quicky the rest will come as the season progresses and the weather improves,
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| Quote ="Acatinbullland"only real negative i see at the minute is how short our goal line drop outs are, i dont remember Grix taking them last season, but some on saturday seemed to be falling short of our 40m line putting us under instant pressure, think that needs sorting quicky the rest will come as the season progresses and the weather improves,'"
A bit of variation in the kick offs would be nice as well.
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| Like I also said Jakey, he may well have been trying too hard, or trying to settle a few scores with some ex team mates, it happens.
Just not quite seeing the signing of intent yet, but like with other overseas signings, sometimes it takes a few games to fully settle in.
And just for the record it wasn't me who said he was our worst signing under Chester, it was a comment on here, or on of Trinitys Facebook page after the game.
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