As someone said yesterday at the game he is not what you would expect of an Ozzie test player as you expect them to be hard an rugged and he looks nothing like that. You have to remember he had an horrific broken jaw and while he has been over here he has taken a few wild high shots to the jaw and a couple of times has had stitches put in playing for us. He has a good reading of the game and a decent off load but as has been said is just not up to it and no room for sentiments we need a fully fit war horse

It's amazing how we all see the game so differently! I too thought he had a decent game yesterday and while we were on top he looked very good...some very strong runs and some lovely short balls right out of the top drawer. As with a few yesterday, because of losing 3 players to injury he probably played longer than was planned...that coming after a comeback last week in very testing conditions...will be a major player for us next week if we are to cause a shock!

I agree with this. Overseas players usually take time to settle in and Toops has not had a good run of games yet.

He was also top tackler yesterday (29) and top offloads (3)...no errors, no penalties conceded...not the worst for a supposed crock...

I am a fan of this guy. He has class written all over him but it is obvious he is not able to fire on all cylinders. I don't know if a close season would help or if it's time to go . I wish we could get a season out of him, fully fit but he will know best.

I think ultimately on this, the question is, given the fact that between now and say, the end of October, other sides will have strengthened their squads, do we have the time of a full close season to help him.

We have other positions of which we need to strengthen, such as half back and centre, not to mention replace Anderson and Scruton, and if we wait to see if he is fit to go or not, could well be the difference of getting a good player, or the dregs.

Given how close the league is now, this could well be the difference between us being top 8, or middle 8.