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| After reading the telegraph and argus tonight this paints a picture than has been portrayed by the club and in particular the chairman who says to the fans do not panic. The fact is and whilst I have been watching the cougars in various guises it is not the first time under the chairman we have been served with a winding up order. The club gave no indication of voluntarily going into administration which I feel is treating the fans who at end of the day are paying hard earned money with contempt. The result will without doubt mean points deducted making a hard season harder for the players. With all this in mind and to give the club and new directors a chance of salvaging the damaged reputation the chairman should now RESIGN. I have praised the club and chairman when things go well but also critical when required. An extremely cheesed off supporter.
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| Quote ="girl power"After reading the telegraph and argus tonight this paints a picture than has been portrayed by the club and in particular the chairman who says to the fans do not panic. The fact is and whilst I have been watching the cougars in various guises it is not the first time under the chairman we have been served with a winding up order. The club gave no indication of voluntarily going into administration which I feel is treating the fans who at end of the day are paying hard earned money with contempt. The result will without doubt mean points deducted making a hard season harder for the players. With all this in mind and to give the club and new directors a chance of salvaging the damaged reputation the chairman should now RESIGN. I have praised the club and chairman when things go well but also critical when required. An extremely cheesed off supporter.'"
Just out of interest as I neither know your Chairman or his history of running your club , is there anybody else willing to commit to running it if he was to go ?
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| Quote ="Starbug"Just out of interest as I neither know your Chairman or his history of running your club , is there anybody else willing to commit to running it if he was to go ?'"
Our chairman is a local man, Neil Spencer.
He was instrumental in resurrecting the club back in 2001 when we folded the first time and I believe has been the chairman since then.
Rumour has it there are new directors coming on board but nothing official from the club as yet.
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| Quote ="Stealth Comic"Our chairman is a local man, Neil Spencer.
He was instrumental in resurrecting the club back in 2001 when we folded the first time and I believe has been the chairman since then.
Rumour has it there are new directors coming on board but nothing official from the club as yet.'"
So a ' good ' bloke then , a RL person , as there is not really any other reason to get involved with running a lower league club , my accountant replied to me when I told him I was considering joining the BOD of Leigh , " are you stark raving mad " , he was right , the old adage " you dont have to be mad to work here , but it helps " should have been born from RL
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| Quote ="Starbug"So a ' good ' bloke then , a RL person , as there is not really any other reason to get involved with running a lower league club , my accountant replied to me when I told him I was considering joining the BOD of Leigh , " are you stark raving mad " , he was right , the old adage " you dont have to be mad to work here , but it helps " should have been born from RL'"
Rightly or wrongly there are people who would dispute your opening phrase.
When the new club formed in 2001, Neil Spencer had an approach and attitude that wound up many loyal and long term fans.
Some might argue that he saved the club but to what end?
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| Quote ="Dreamer":papwweakRightly or wrongly there are people who would dispute your :papwweakopening phrase.:papwweak
When the new club formed in 2001, Neil Spencer had an approach and attitude that wound up many loyal and long term fans.
Some might argue that he saved the club but to what end?'" running for 8 years then he must be a reasonably decent person in my experience , the real bad ones either sell the ground after 2/3 years or dissapear as soon as there is nothing to be made out of it
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| Quote ="Starbug"As I said I dont know him , but if he has managed to keep your club [ it is ' your ' club not his running for 8 years then he must be a reasonably decent person in my experience , the real bad ones either sell the ground after 2/3 years or dissapear as soon as there is nothing to be made out of it'"
I was not attacking Neil or anyone else for that matter, but someone must be accountable for the situation we are in.
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| Assuming we do go into administration again under the chairman I see his position as untenable under the circumstances, no doubt Neil has done a good job keeping the club going up to a point. but I as a fan cannot see how further involvement will ingratiate the fans, I can opnly speak for myself.
Only the other week in the press we were told we are better prepared for promotion, what a load of tosh this turned out to be.
Apart from the fans I feel sorry for Barry and the playeers whom I will continue to watch and support but we all deserve a full explanation as to how the debt occured and from what time period.
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| Quote ="girl power"
Apart from the fans I feel sorry for Barry and the playeers whom I will continue to watch and support but we all deserve a full explanation as to how the debt occured and from what time period.'"
Agreed.
I have a hunch on this, but hopefully it will come out in the wash.
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| Quote Rightly or wrongly there are people who would dispute your opening phrase.
When the new club formed in 2001, Neil Spencer had an approach and attitude that wound up many loyal and long term fans.
Some might argue that he saved the club but to what end?'"
When Neil and Colin 'saved' the club, who did they do it for?
They registered a company 'Keighley Cougars 2001 Limited' before the old Cougars was liquidated.
At the time I suggested to Neil that a 'Community' club be formed and offered to invest some of my hard-earned money into it but heard nothing. However, it was too late - Neil and Colin had 'saved' the Club and were the only Directors and shareholders.
It's a pity that a true Community Club wasn't formed with a truly democratic Board accountable to shareholders.
Let's hope that some good will come of this and that the current squad is not lost to other clubs especially as Barry has spent both time and effort in building it from nothing.
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| Quote ="aj cougar"Agreed.
I have a hunch on this, but hopefully it will come out in the wash.'" your a moderator does that mean you are privy to information that no one else is.if so you should not be leaving little snippits like i have a hunch. say what you know or say nothin at all.i think keighley fans dont need that right now.
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| Quote ="j.c"your a moderator does that mean you are privy to information that no one else is.if so you should not be leaving little snippits like i have a hunch. say what you know or say nothin at all.i think keighley fans dont need that right now.'"
No I'm not privy to any info that no one else is.
I have a hunch, means "I have a hunch"
I may be wrong.
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| Quote ="aj cougar"No I'm not privy to any info that no one else is.
I have a hunch, means "I have a hunch"
I may be wrong.'"
Are you Quasi?
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| The Hunchback was very predictable in his methods, in fact you could say he had his own Quasi Modo Operandi
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| I am not happy about what has happened and as the saying goes its never a failure just a lesson learnt. I am just sad for the supporters, the team, the hard workers at the club and for rugby in general in the Keighley area that we didnt learn the lesson first time round.
I do not pretend to have "snippets" and "hunches" and a vendetta. I only know that there is not rich pickings in this area for businesses to fund extra curiculum passions and that if anyone is to take on this club they better have a huge pocket of funds, thick skin, love and passion for the cougars because they will need it. Still love you Cougars and thanks.
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| When Quasi got married, the photographer had a heck of a job getting the album to close.
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| Quote ="goosey"I am not happy about what has happened and as the saying goes its never a failure just a lesson learnt. I am just sad for the supporters, the team, the hard workers at the club and for rugby in general in the Keighley area that =#FF0000we didnt learn the lesson first time round.'"
Sadly, even in my life time this is not the "first time" this has happened!!!! and nothing appears to have been learned in all my years following the various guises of the club.
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| I read a piece in one of the rugby papers, cannot remember which as I get both.
The article says our chairman has to appeal to the rfl to be allowed on board of any new holding company (keighley cougars 2010).
I am sorry but as this is not the first time we have been in this predicament and whilst not knocking the good work the directors have done they are ultimately at fault for the current situation.
If Neil wins appeal to be on new board then I for one will only pay at gate to watch and support the players but will not go in the bar again as I am very angry that the club is being dragged through the mud again!!!
As stated previously this is the 2nd or 3rd time this has happened why reward what is clearly a failure by the clubs hierarchy.
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| Do they have a "fit and proper person test" like they do in the Premier League?
With all due respect to Neil Spencer, I'd find it hard to see him passing one considering he's the chairman of a club that's going under.
GP, I'd politely ask you to to reconsider not going in the bar because if everyone shared that attitude you'd also be punishing likes of Rach, who would quickly find themselves out of a job.
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| Quote ="Stealth Comic"Do they have a "fit and proper person test" like they do in the Premier League?
With all due respect to Neil Spencer, I'd find it hard to see him passing one considering he's the chairman of a club that's going under.
GP, I'd politely ask you to to reconsider not going in the bar because if everyone shared that attitude you'd also be punishing likes of Rach, who would quickly find themselves out of a job.'"
Now we couldn't do that to Rach.
Not for myself but for the good of the club I will go in the bar and drink GPs share of the lager
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| If you read [url=http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/nationalleagues/Alarm-bells-ringing-for-RL.5900347.jpthis[/url article.
Look at the last paragraph you will see what girl power is on about.
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| Quote ="guess who"If you read [url=http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/nationalleagues/Alarm-bells-ringing-for-RL.5900347.jpthis[/url article.
Look at the last paragraph you will see what girl power is on about.'"
It says he will have to appeal, not he is appealing.
It's a bit of an ambiguous paragraph that could all kinds of speculation could be drawn from.
The less said about it the better to be honest.
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| It reads to me like the club (and not just ours) desperately need every penny they can get their hands on, including bar takings!
Seriously, I wonder how much some kind of appeal for 'small change' would generate on matchdays - you know, buckets around the ground, in the bar, that kind of thing?
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| Quote ="Mick W."It reads to me like the club (and not just ours) desperately need every penny they can get their hands on, including bar takings!
Seriously, I wonder how much some kind of appeal for 'small change' would generate on matchdays - you know, buckets around the ground, in the bar, that kind of thing?'"
I bet a lot of people wouldn't be happy putting anything in.
Don't forget up to a couple of weeks ago we were a well run club, working within our means.
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