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| Quote ="LFCPatriotRhino"I was thinking the same earlier, if McNair was there just an extra year things could have been a whole lot different'"
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"We'll just have to find someone else to be QB.'"
I think your QB for next season will be one of Kolb/Orton/McNabb.
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| Vince Young is Daunte Culpepper Mk2, just he never had Randy Moss in his prime to throw to.
The problem with Young was work ethic and lack of intelligence. He is a 9-5 player , its his job. He doesn't really have a passion for the game. He won't put in the extra time it takes (offseason or extra time regular season) to be a Super Bowl QB. Thats why Fisher can't stand the guy. He had his chances and failed. Also being a low IQ person doesn't help either with his grasp of a complex offense. This is a player who takes it personal when the home crowd boos him. Threw his shoulder pads in the stands and quit.
That being said someone will always take a flyer on him, in the hope that he works it all out.
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| Quote ="ST_CONROY"I think your QB for next season will be one of Kolb/Orton/McNabb.'"
McNabb would be nice.
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| Apparently Luck is going back to Stanford for his final year. Brave decision but something which I applaud.
He'd have been #1 pick so the Panthers are in a bad spot, it also means there will be a run on the other "top" QB's, all of whom I think have some weaknessess/concerns.
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| At least they can't call Andrew Luck a money grabber, he will lose millions if the rookie cap is brought in (which it should be), fair play to him finishing his degree let's face it his career in the NFL won't last forever and as a bonus he won't have to play for Carolina , unless they are last again next year, I guess it's possible because I think their gonna be bad for a few years to come
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| Apparently the Dolphins are going to offer Jim Harbaugh $8 million a year to be their coach
I don't know and would only be guessing but I would doubt say Bill Cowher/John Gruden would even get that but like I say I may be wrong!!
Maybe they will finish last and draft Andrew Luck next year
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| Agreed. He may well lose out on millions but money isn't everything. He gets to stay at a very well regarded academic college and get his degree (architectural design) and be "normal" for another year.
He'll still be the number 1 QB next year. Bradford went back and got injured, which is the worst case for Luck, and still went #1.
The NFL will always be there waiting for him, plus with the potential of there being no season next year it is probably a good choice to go back.
Apparently the Phins already offered Gruden $7million but he turned it down.
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| To put it into perspective Bill Belichick gets $7.5 million a year which is still a lot obviously but hes been in the NFL years and won everything going numerous times!
Maybe Gruden just wants more cash because he knows they will pay it, it's probably something like " ok John we will give you $7 million, no Im not interested, ok how about $10 million, no, ok how about 20, go on then you have twisted my arm"
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| Be gutted if Gruden gets a job. Really enjoyed his input on MNF.
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| Quote ="El Pac Carnegie"Be gutted if Gruden gets a job. Really enjoyed his input on MNF.'"
Thats why he's turned down the job, because he enjoys being an commentator.
I don't see the fascination with him, sure he's won a SB, but he isn't a great coach.
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| I also like Gruden's commentary I think he's the best about at the moment
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| MNF is much better since Gruden took over from Kornheiser,he's enjoying the gig now but I think the coaching bug will get him again in time like it has with Cowher.
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| Quote ="ST_CONROY"Thats why he's turned down the job, because he enjoys being an commentator.
I don't see the fascination with him, sure he's won a SB, but he isn't a great coach.'"
Why isn't he a great coach?
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| Bit of fun for the playoffs. This will work okay(hopefully). Like a playoffs penalty shootout.
Pick your winners from this week. If one of your teams loses you lose a team.
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Ravens
Packers
Colts
Saints
to win. And only the Packers and Saints did then I could only pick winners in the next round in games involving them. So when the Packers play the Eagles next week I could then choose anybody on that game. It's possible all your 1st week teams could lose and you'd be out. Basically, picking the winner gives you the chance to pick a winner in that teams game nxt week? Is that too complicated?
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| Quote ="Nikaed"Why isn't he a great coach?'"
I don't think he is a bad coach. I just don't think he is as good as the amount of jobs he is being linked to. Especially jobs with pretty good teams like Miami and the Cowgirls.
He won the SB with Dungy's team/defence and then completely tanked with Tampa. Although he did some decent things in Oakland.
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| Mark, my picks are:
Packers (A-Rod will prove all the doubters wrong)
Colts
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Seahawks
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| My picks are
Philly
Saints
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| Quote ="ST_CONROY"Agreed. He may well lose out on millions but money isn't everything. He gets to stay at a very well regarded academic college and get his degree (architectural design) and be "normal" for another year.
He'll still be the number 1 QB next year. Bradford went back and got injured, which is the worst case for Luck, and still went #1.
The NFL will always be there waiting for him, plus with the potential of there being no season next year it is probably a good choice to go back.
Apparently the Phins already offered Gruden $7million but he turned it down.'"
What if he blows out his knee next year and never plays again?!
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| I'm shocked at Luck ot declaring tbh. Has anything been declared on Harbaugh's decision? I thought if he stayed then maybe Luck would too, but with him looking likely to leave I would've put my house on him coming out. A lot can happen in a year, I hope he doesn't regret it as I really like the lad.
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| Quote ="Nikaed"Why isn't he a great coach?'"
Jon Gruden is a great self publicist. He did some good things at Oakland but he also started to build a roster that was heavy with over priced ageing veterans. Since the Superbowl the Raiders have been paying for that.
In Tampa he took Tony Dungy's defense, which reached pretty much its peak and won a Superbowl. After the Superbowl season Gruden went 45-51 with the Bucs and IMHO it was only Monte Kiffin's handling of the defense that got him that many wins.
He is thought of as this great offensive mind that came through under Mike Holmgren/Andy Reid's tutelage, but he is not. Look at the revolving door of QB's that rolled through Tampa on his watch and then hey presto he leaves and they get a franchise QB in Josh Freeman, go figure.
He also alienates too many players with his attitude and has been called a back stabber by many others.
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| Cut and paste from my picks on NFLUK:
New Orleans
Indy
Baltimore
Philadelphia
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| The Dolphins have decided to keep Sparano
[uTranslation[/u:- Even $8 million wasn't enought to get Harbaugh because he is a money grabbing barsteward and someone has offered him more
If I was Sparano I would be pretty annoyed to be honest
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| My picks for the game
Ravens
Packers
Saints
Colts (though I hope the Jesters win and we get to play them again after fat Rex`s pot shot at Brady, thanks for yet more motivation you fat C*nt as if we need it )
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