Aah yes, the mythical anti city media witch hunt card.

Quote ="The Boy TC"Keep an eye on this over the next couple of days for some analysis on the United figures [urlhttp://andersred.blogspot.com/[/url There's also some interesting comments from Tampa Bay Bucs fans at the bottom of this article which is linked in teh above blog [urlhttp://www2.tbo.com/content/2010/aug/25/271832/are-glazer-loan-delinquencies-problematic/[/url'" I am sure a post on the Swiss Ramble blog will appear within a week or so (swissramble.blogspot.com/). He writes some excellent articles on football finance - easy to understand and very well written. His work is shamelessley copied by the better newspapers. Quote Despite the announced loss by United, get your David Gill & Fergie cliché bingo cards at the ready. "The debt is not a problem." "The Glazers have been fantastic owners." "Never been denied funds for the right player." etc etc etc'" LOL I can imagine a few of the muppets on Red Cafe still think everything is rosy.

Quote ="The Boy TC"Keep an eye on this over the next couple of days for some analysis on the United figures [urlhttp://andersred.blogspot.com/[/url There's also some interesting comments from Tampa Bay Bucs fans at the bottom of this article which is linked in teh above blog [urlhttp://www2.tbo.com/content/2010/aug/25/271832/are-glazer-loan-delinquencies-problematic/[/url'" I am sure a post on the Swiss Ramble blog will appear within a week or so (swissramble.blogspot.com/). He writes some excellent articles on football finance - easy to understand and very well written. His work is shamelessley copied by the better newspapers. Quote Despite the announced loss by United, get your David Gill & Fergie cliché bingo cards at the ready. "The debt is not a problem." "The Glazers have been fantastic owners." "Never been denied funds for the right player." etc etc etc'" LOL I can imagine a few of the muppets on Red Cafe still think everything is rosy.

Definitely! It took me [itwo[/i goes to nail it.

There has been, mate. It's been a disgrace. Maybe it comes with the territory of being a high profile club, I don't know. Listen to Alan Green when we are playing. Actually, listen to him when we are not playing and he still manages to throw in plenty of digs. The other day, he called us, with plenty of venom I may add, "that Arabic outfit". He even criticised us for wanting to pay Barca 90m Euro for Pique. It was a rumour started in the Daily Star or Sun that has not been corroborated by any other journalist!!

Some of the nonsense recently written about us, includes, "Micah Richards banned from smiling and laughing during City training sessions".

My favourite is when City were criticised for spending money on transfer fees because hospital wards in Surrey were being closed.

TBH a few people down here have commented on the over-reaction of the press to the De Jong tackle.

Thanks to your accounts being published (reported as a £100m profit on SSN hahahaha. Is that not bias?) teh De Jong story has been pushed off the back pages, so to speak. Although Newcastle are doing their best to stoke up the fire every coupe of days or so.

Not if the interest payments are simply replaced by dividends. The takeover is clearly financially driven, the new owners are not going to simply write off the debts and effectively "gift" Liverpool £300m in the manner of an Abramovich or Mansour.

They will want, or more correctly need, to make a return on that investment. They will do that either through a steady dividend stream (and in the long term dividends cost more than debt) or, more likely, they'll keep the money in the club for a couple of years, try to steady the ship and then put Liverpool back up for sale in order to make a capital gain.

The deal is good financially for Liverpool as it writes off H&G's stakes, but Its not a free lunch.

At the end of the day who knows what they will do your just guessing.

Bank of Scotland ready to pull the plug as early as next week and put the holding company into administration according to the BBC today.

Its the 15th and that date has been set for yonks.

And if it gets to that stage H&G still lose out and a 9 point deduction will be worth it if the case in the High Court doesn't go the right way.

Nobody knows precisely what they will do, but the need for them to make a return on their investment is a financial imperative. They have no choice. They do not have the resources to do otherwise.

Run the club right and they will.

I never saw the Terry tackle so that rules me out of commenting on that one.

He is a hard player, the point of such tackling is to take the ball cleanly, and as per sliding tackle tradition, the crunch effect will see the opposite man hit the deck. If you've ever tried one or been tackled by one, that's what happens. If it's a great tackle, the man gets taken out of the game for a second or two and the ball has been played in a way as to exploit the space that's resulted from it (this is the bit that NDJ fails to do).

As long as the man goes down as a result of a fair challenge, that's football. I do believe it is supposed to be a man's game is it not, or do you really want to see the 'Wendyball' that many on this board refer to it as?

The City witch hunt is not just aimed at De Jong. The press are constantly looking for tales of club disharmony, putting the knife in on a daily basis, fishing for quotes from discarded players and even bloody medical backroom staff. Every last argument (the kind of which probably goes on every day at most clubs) makes the back pages and is shown as another glorious example of how 'mercenary' the players are and how we are lacking in team spirit; a team full of individuals, blah-blah.

The only time we did not make the headlines was in the couple of days after an eleven man solid work ethic saw us gain three points against Chelsea. Quite simply, some of them were gutted because it destroyed their myth about our players not caring about anything bar their wage packet. Delightfully for them though, Carlos Tevez had a minor disagreement with the manager the week after so they could recommence the battle, and despite being in second, the club is in crisis again.

Bless.



As mentioned it comes with the territory of aiming to be a high profile club. It's hardly a witch hunt.

The PL don't need to give Liverpool a points deduction. The players will take care of that.

Hmm, Ben Afra- De Jong???

Quote ="Enfield Exile"I am sure a post on the Swiss Ramble blog will appear within a week or so (swissramble.blogspot.com/). '" Some cracking reads on there. Hadn't come across it before.

Quote ="Enfield Exile"I am sure a post on the Swiss Ramble blog will appear within a week or so (swissramble.blogspot.com/). '" Some cracking reads on there. Hadn't come across it before.

I think the response of the press to De Jong is probably more down to the World Cup than the fact that he plays for City. It was inevitable that the press would be waiting for any future transgressions. It does seem to me though that for every criticism by a journalist at least one ex player has come out in his defense so I do not think that the coverage has been too unbalanced.

I suppose its inevitable that City will get stick. I think the worst period was on the sunday/monday of the second week of the season when it seemed like the press as a whole had collectively decided to round on the club. Its not unusual for City to get bad press coverage in the sunday/monday papers, but usually its after we've played! My personal favourite that weekend was Michael Calvin's article in the Mirror "Why Football needs Man City's Muppet Show to Fail", a great example of well balanced journalism. But its a huge improvement on the previous affectionate but patronising attitude to the club.

Evening standard has a cracking article on Man utd's financial problems at the moment, Well researched and Utd fans will be spittin feathers.

Not necessarily. We make, or made, quite a lot of money as a club, whilst our wage bill was the 5th/6th largest in the league, it might even be the 7th now, but we were one of the more profitable clubs due to our high'ish revenues, yet moderately high wage bill. I doubt we'll make anywhere near as much due to the early KO in the CL last year, and the lack of qualification for the CL this year. We have a huge shirt sponsorship at the moment with Standard, whilst the potential to sell naming rights to any potential stadium will be huge. The potential to make profit at our club is huge, with a new stadium bringing in higher crowds and sponsorship deals, we could be right up there with United and Arsenal if we're ran the right way. We have a world class academy (admittedly, it hasn't bore much fruit over recent years, but Benitez left it in fantastic shape), we have an absolutely huge fan base that stretches to all corners of the globe, with the potential for that to grow still to be fully tapped into, whilst we still have some semi-decent players at the club, although the current coach is completely incapable of managing the current crop of players, there are still plenty of dire players that shouldn't be here.

I hope this rumour isn't true.

i wouldnt see a problem if either man utd or liverpool took a bit of a financial tumble and struggle for a few years as both have the structure to make a comeback once theyve steadied the ship.self reliance is better then this sugar daddy business thats taken over for the past 5 or 6 years.its a pity footy will never have a salary cap to make sugar daddies less influential

If anyone needs cheering up, spend 6 minutes on YouTube watching that hilarious 'Dear Mr Hicks' video. Cringeworthy beyond description. Not sure what it's supposed to achieve but maybe Liverpool's QC can find a way to shoehorn it into his submissions next week.

I quite like it, and its targetted at the right bloke. Gilette seems to be in the shadows for me

I watched it last week



I was embarrassed for them. Great way to spend 6 minutes.

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