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| Quote ="Roofaldo"Yeah, and their mother is in the Guinness World Record Book.
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| Shad Gaspard
Luke Gallows
Jillian Hall
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| Quote ="DancingDodo"Shad Gaspard
Luke Gallows
Jillian Hall
Tiffany
Caylen Croft
Vance Archer
All released today.'"
Saw that last night. Whoever decided to split up the SES wants f*****g shooting! Best heel faction in WWE for years, it could have run and run IMO. So that's Gallows and Serena gone, no doubt Mercury will be getting future endevoured again soon. Don't like the look of CM Punk's prospects unfortunately.
Re Shad, why won't WWE learn that some guys are great tag wrestlers, whilst others are great singles stars. They couldn't be happy with Cryme Time been a popular tag-team who got a good reaction and sold merchandise, no let's see if they can be singles stars (despite having hardly any proper tag teams as it is), then when it fails we'll just sack the poor sods.
Makes me sick these regular clearouts when you look at how much money they waste e.g. on a Senate campaign, and on terrible films that no-one cares about or wants to see.
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| IMO Shad was the weak link in Cryme Tyme, I can see JTG building an Eddie Guerrero style character of being the cheat everyone loves.
SES split cause of Serena's drinking and Mercury's injury, Punk got sent to RAW to balance the face/heels a bit, then got injured after a week.
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| Quote ="DancingDodo"IMO Shad was the weak link in Cryme Tyme, I can see JTG building an Eddie Guerrero style character of being the cheat everyone loves.
SES split cause of Serena's drinking and Mercury's injury, Punk got sent to RAW to balance the face/heels a bit, then got injured after a week.'"
All fair comments mate, but have to say I can't see either former member of Cryme Time ever matching the success they had as a team on their own (like Bubba Ray said in an interview - did anyone ever want to see the Road Warriors wrestle in singles?!).
The Serena thing was pathetic - she should be allowed to have a life away from her character, and as long as her behaviour is law-abiding (which drinking is), then what's the problem?!
They could still have kept SES together (e.g. Punk & Mercury done interviews, commentary etc whilst recovering, whilst Gallows & Serena wrestled), they're just a very petty and fickle company at times IMO.
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| Vance Archer was Lance Hoyt in TNA for 5 years and was released in February 2009, don't know if he'll go back there with it being TNA releasing him
Jillian Hall - WWE releases yet another talented female wrestler
Tiffany - Good decision to release
Shad Gaspard & this also applies to Caylen Croft - WWE just doesn't seem to ever want to keep tag teams together these days. Back in the day it was fantastic to watch the likes of E&C, Hardy's, Dudley's and these days I love watching The Motor City Machine Guns, Beer Money, Generation Me, Ink Inc.
Luke Gallows - Such a shame for him that SES ended, as after being stuck with the Festus gimmick for 2 years he had finally got something good.
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| Quote ="lister"Vance Archer was Lance Hoyt in TNA for 5 years and was released in February 2009, don't know if he'll go back there with it being TNA releasing him
Jillian Hall - WWE releases yet another talented female wrestler
Tiffany - Good decision to release
Shad Gaspard & this also applies to Caylen Croft - WWE just doesn't seem to ever want to keep tag teams together these days. Back in the day it was fantastic to watch the likes of E&C, Hardy's, Dudley's and these days I love watching The Motor City Machine Guns, Beer Money, Generation Me, Ink Inc.
Luke Gallows - Such a shame for him that SES ended, as after being stuck with the Festus gimmick for 2 years he had finally got something good.'"
The thing is WWE are too quick to hit the panic button. They rush guys into spots they're not ready for and if someone doesn't get over within 2 weeks they drop them.
The tag team thing is clearly something that WWE don't feel matter. I mean look at the Harts, what's that break up about? It makes no sense as it's not had time to build either guy as face or heel. Yes, Kidd turned on Smith. But why should I care about either guy? They've only been round for 10 minutes. It's not like Owen vs Brett or Brett vs Bulldog where both guys have had time to get over with the fans
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| Vince McMahon has signed a new 3 year contract with WWE for $1.1 Million annual base salary (potential annual bonus of 100%), unlimited access to corporate jet. After the 3 years it's a rolling yearly contract, if either side terminates the contract it has a 1 year non compete clause.
WWE Survivor Series Card
WWE Championship Match
Randy Orton (c) vs. Wade Barrett (with John Cena as the special guest referee)
Should Barrett win, Cena is freed from The Nexus. Should Barrett lose, Cena is fired from WWE.
World Heavyweight Championship Match
Edge vs. Kane (c)
WWE Intercontinental Championship Match
Dolph Ziggler (c) vs. Kaval
WWE United States Championship Match
Daniel Bryan (c) vs. Ted DiBiase
WWE Divas Championship Match
Natalya vs. Michelle McCool and Layla (c)
WWE Tag Team Championship Match
Santino Marella and Vladimir Kozlov vs. Justin Gabriel and Heath Slater (c)
Survivor Series Elimination Match
Rey Mysterio, Big Show, MVP, Kofi Kingston and Chris Masters vs. Alberto Del Rio, Jack Swagger, Drew McIntyre, Cody Rhodes and Tyler Reks
Sheamus vs. John Morrison
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WWE Survivor Series Card
WWE Championship Match
Randy Orton (c) vs. Wade Barrett (with John Cena as the special guest referee)
Should Barrett win, Cena is freed from The Nexus. Should Barrett lose, Cena is fired from WWE.
World Heavyweight Championship Match
Edge vs. Kane (c)
WWE Intercontinental Championship Match
Dolph Ziggler (c) vs. Kaval
WWE United States Championship Match
Daniel Bryan (c) vs. Ted DiBiase
WWE Divas Championship Match
Natalya vs. Michelle McCool and Layla (c)
WWE Tag Team Championship Match
Santino Marella and Vladimir Kozlov vs. Justin Gabriel and Heath Slater (c)
Survivor Series Elimination Match
Rey Mysterio, Big Show, MVP, Kofi Kingston and Chris Masters vs. Alberto Del Rio, Jack Swagger, Drew McIntyre, Cody Rhodes and Tyler Reks
Sheamus vs. John Morrison'"
It's a shame there's only 1 survivor series match on this year. though I suppose even for wwe it's hard to justify that many guys in a tag match
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| Survivor Series COULD still work, if there was real thought put into the tag matches. I don't know, maybe they could have held back the Nexus v Raw match from Summerslam and scrap the ridiculous Bragging Rights ppv and have a SD! v Raw match. There needs to be something meaningful in the tags.
Same with KOTR, they could bring that back as a genuine ppv. The KOTR is the new number one contender for Summerslam, or something. I heard that KOTR may figure on Raw soon?
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| I always felt in was odd that they dropped the King of the Ring PPV. It's the only PPV where all the matches can actually have a meaning. Even if you only have a semi and final on the PPV itself and have the qualifiers on SD and Raw.
KotR is like Money in the Bank, it's a way of getting a guy over without him needing a belt and gives the company time to build the guy up to be a credible contender for a real title.
Wait, what am I talking about? That'd require WWE programming to be based on logic instead of who certain large nosed individuals backstage think about people.
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Should Barrett win, Cena is freed from The Nexus. Should Barrett lose, Cena is fired from WWE.
Barrett - Miz to try and cash in after Cena kicks the crap out of him
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Edge vs. Kane (c)
Kane
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Dolph Ziggler (c) vs. Kaval
Dolph
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Daniel Bryan (c) vs. Ted DiBiase
Daniel Bryan
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Natalya vs. Michelle McCool and Layla (c)
Natalya
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NeXus
Survivor Series Elimination Match
Rey Mysterio, Big Show, MVP, Kofi Kingston and Chris Masters vs. Alberto Del Rio, Jack Swagger, Drew McIntyre, Cody Rhodes and Tyler Reks
Who cares?
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Sheamus
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| Not expecting much from the show tonight.
Barrett simply has to win, or WWE will have killed months of awesome work with him!
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| The end of SS was good from WWE. It was one of those moments that reminded you of your younger days, actually having you wonder whether it was a work or not. I'm guessing he'll be back before Mania though, if not on Raw tonight!
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| Quote ="richardviking"The end of SS was good from WWE. It was one of those moments that reminded you of your younger days, actually having you wonder whether it was a work or not. I'm guessing he'll be back before Mania though, if not on Raw tonight!'"
I think because of how he left he will be gone for a few months UNLESS Vinnie Mac comes back and sacks the GM stating losing Cena is suicide etc etc
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| Didn't seem like the crowd bought into the "Cena is fired" bit. They tried playing it up, but WWE has burnt the fan base with this sort of thing so often that no-one will buy it.
No doubt he'll be on Raw tomorrow night and there'll be some stupid stipulation and he isn't fired. Or he get's hired back straight away. Or something else inane that makes any match stipulation in the future mean nothing and hurt the business more.
I assume if he's actually "fired" then it's for some time off for an injury or to make another god-awful film.
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| Quote ="Roofaldo"I assume if he's actually "fired" then it's for some time off for an injury or to make another god-awful film.'"
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| What a joke that ending was!
All the monentum created for Barrett over the past few months is now dead as he's lost twice to Orton now in title matches.
And anyone who truly believes Cena won't be on Raw tonight anyway is tapped.
I give up with WWE!
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| Quote ="Abbott for England"What a joke that ending was!
All the monentum created for Barrett over the past few months is now dead as he's lost twice to Orton now in title matches.
And anyone who truly believes Cena won't be on Raw tonight anyway is tapped.
I give up with WWE!'"
Technically he won one and only really lost last night cos Cena shoved him into an RKO
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