Surprisingly good performance from Pakistan to knock SA out and make the final, Afridi superb with bat and ball.

Expect them to be bowled out for 60 or so in the final and take a right hammering now!

I saw more enthusiasm in five minutes from that Pakistan team than i did in the whole series for England. It's called [ipassion[/i England. Get some before the Aussies whitewash you again.

very good win Pakistan credit due you turned it on today wioll be intresting tommorow wacth WI go and knock SL out after we have bigged up both SA and SL lol

South Africa fail in yet another Semi Final.

They really are chokers!!

To be fair, it is a pointless, tinpot trophy taking place before the biggest event in cricket, nay the biggest sporting event of the year. I'd struggle to show any passion and enthusiasm for it as well. Hell, I've not even been bothered about watching the damned thing.

Save the complaining until we fail miserably in something meaningful.

If you're a professional sportsman you should be at the top of your game in every tournament. That is, unless you think you're too good. That's the problem with the Englnd set up. They all think they're too good. If that's their attitude then they don't deserve the fans that go and watch them - even in 20/20.

I don't think England showed any lack of passion at all, far from it at times watching Broad and Sidebottom.

What they did show was a massive lack of a batting game plan throughout the tournament which did for them in the end...and with Pakistan managing to get to the Final it just goes to show that if we'd have performed with the bat then it really was wide open for us.

I think it might be more that the supporters, people like yourself, build them up to be better than they are.

As OrdsallRed has said, the lack of a batting plan was the main downfall. Is that down to a lack of passion or the players apparently thinking they're too good? Is it balls. It's down to the fact that we struggled with the bat, nothing more.

I just can't understand why people are willing to spit dummies out already. Our performance in Twenty20 is no indicator on how well we'll do in Test Matches, they're two different animals.

And at least we WON a couple of our 20/20's...unlike a certain Antipodean side...I bet they aren't crying down there and lamenting a certain loss of the Ashes....yet!!!

Aye.

Although, I'm not sure if I can cope with a summer of Shane Warne in the commentary box.

Rather him be in there than on the field...

I dont think its lack of passion, its inhibition caused by years of facing medium paced seamers on soft green wickets.

Had England won it would hardly have been a "pointless, tinpot trophy". As they are out of it and were rubbish throughout then........

So rubbish they beat Pakistan?

Anyone see the Womens semi? That was a good game

Just seen the result on the BBC. That's a very, very big total to chase down in the women's game, even at Taunton. Given we were 43-2 as well, that's even more of an accomplishment.

Sounds good.

Well that was a cracking match in the 2nd woman's semi final between England v Australia

Australia made 163 - 5 in there 20 overs

England made it for the lose of 2 wickets with 3 balls to spare mainly thanks to a partnership of 122 from 75 balls Claire Taylor 76no and Beth Morgan 46no

Which now brings a repeat of the woman's ODI world cup final with New Zealand

I nearly switched off after 10 overs of England's innings, thought we were well out of it. Great knock by Taylor.

To be fair mate, GT's opinions on this competition (and the domestic version) have been clear from the start.

The fact that England didn't play well has absolutley no relation to the Ashes.

The truth is though, this version of the game can make players very, very rich, so some players may see performing well in T20 more importantly than some England followers.



Well done to the ladies. The fact that my sister has the same name as the best female cricketer in the world never fails to amuse me. The, now customary, "Good knock 'r kid" text has been sent. She hates cricket, in fact she hates all sports, so does not see the funny side.

If the women win the final that will be 2 world cups in a few months,surely they'll be the team of the year in the BBC sports awards later on this year.

and lost to the mighty Holland.

Agreed.

We didn't lack effort or passion, we lacked runs and big hitters in the middle-lower order.

Our whole tournament was summed up from about over 11 until we had batted 19.4 overs against the West Indies in the Super Eights when we hadn't hit one boundary in that period!

Simply not good enough in this form of the game.

While I find it hard to get too worked up about T20, win or lose, I do think the overwhelming focus on The Ashes we have in England may well be to the detriment of the team.

It's almost as if nothing else matters, as soon as we lost the last series comment seemed to turn to this series, with everything in between as an afterthought. Yes the Ashes are prized by the Ockers too, but they don't make it the be all and end all, and seem to have a more focused, professional attitude to all their series' and opponents.

Thats been a problem since 2005 when we won it over here.

Since then the players seem to have struggled to get themselves up for any other test series and have paid the price. They'll be bang up for this series coming up but that doesn't mean they'll get the win because they're up against a side that'll be determined to prove a few people wrong who've wrote them off.

I think KP is the prime example of this. He's the best batsman in the world quite easily imo but he just doesn't seem to be able to get pumped up 95% of the time and looks to have been waiting for this Ashes series to some round for about 2 years now.

He'll hit mountains of runs imo.