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| How long will he last in Australia?
Ill give him about 6 games then he will be found out and dropped and come crawling back to Wigan for us to take him back. I hope we dont do it though, lets not get in to this re-signing players lark. If they really wanted to play for Wigan they would not cut short their stay. When they come back they just go through the motions like Burgess.
I watched the Salford game again and Williams was exposed for being the show pony that he is. A good half back would of taken over and got the team moving when Tommy went off but Williams just seemed to vanish out of the game.
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| and Bateman's not big enough, he'll never make it.
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| Quote ="apollosghost"and Bateman's not big enough, he'll never make it.'"
Bateman is a rare talent. He may not be big but he is deceptively strong and has a Rolls Royce engine which makes up for his lack of size.
Williams wont be able to hide around and have one good game every now and then and he will need to do a lot more than just flying up in support from a break from Gildart with a clear run to the line.
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| Hard to say how he’ll do. Josh Hodgson looked like a strange signing at the time and he’s now rated as one of the NRLs stand out 9s etc.
Some questioned Bateman, and last week he got the Dally M SR of the year.
Almost impossible to say.
I wish him all the best. You only live once, RL is a tough sport and a short career. Fulfil all your dreams while you can.
And if he wants to come back, if it benefits our club and team, it wouldn’t make good business to turn the cold shoulder to him. Be open.
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| Is there anyone or anything you feel positively about?
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| Quote ="The_Enforcer"How long will he last in Australia?
Ill give him about 6 games then he will be found out and dropped and come crawling back to Wigan for us to take him back. I hope we dont do it though, lets not get in to this re-signing players lark. If they really wanted to play for Wigan they would not cut short their stay. When they come back they just go through the motions like Burgess.
I watched the Salford game again and Williams was exposed for being the show pony that he is. A good half back would of taken over and got the team moving when Tommy went off but Williams just seemed to vanish out of the game.'"
I'll have a bet with you that you are wrong.
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| Williams will succeed in Australia, he’s criminally underrated over here and he’ll flourish behind a pack that can actually make metres and win the battle, he’s two steps ahead of everyone at Wigan and he’s been very good this year
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| Who is he going to dislodge in the Canberra team? I think he’s going to be playing a lot of reserve grade rugby
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| It appears that Sezer may make way for Williams. Will he make it? Who knows? The earlier poster re Hodgson is valid in that some take their chances while others don’t make it. My opinion is that if Sezer stays Williams may struggle to hold down a spot but I don’t care much either way. My lasting memories of him are ones of frustration rather than satisfaction.
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| Quote ="jinkin jimmy"It appears that Sezer may make way for Williams. Will he make it? Who knows? The earlier poster re Hodgson is valid in that some take their chances while others don’t make it. My opinion is that if Sezer stays Williams may struggle to hold down a spot but I don’t care much either way. My lasting memories of him are ones of frustration rather than satisfaction.'"
Sadly your last sentence is how many people will feel.
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| I honestly believe that some folk have a blind spot where George is concerned.
There's no doubt about his talent or his physical prowess, but we've all seen him drift through matches that he could have have injected himself into a lot more.
He could have been so much better for us. I reckon we've seen him hit his straps 1 in every 3/4 games. Compare that to Hastings, who has micro-managed Salford's attack all year, and propelled them right to the top of SL by his own personal example.
I thought GW had all the tools when he first came on the scene. But we've only seen that in flashes.
Whether he'll replicate that in Australia, or quickly learn that it'll mean he gets dropped permanently, remains to be seen.
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| With the resources, structure, facilities and coaching available in Australia he will develop more in the off-season than he has in the last 3 years here.
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| Its entirely up to him how far he can go but he will need to up his game considerably (and consistently) to be a hit in the NRL
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| Where’s he going to play? Right sided half because Wighton plays on the left and I can’t see him being shifted for Williams.
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| Quote ="Porterjoh"Is there anyone or anything you feel positively about?'"
I second this, it’s getting tiresome now. Another to add to the ignore list.
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| When on top form Williams is a fabulous player IMO but I do have my doubts about how he’ll go. He seems a quiet sort of lad who needs reassurance of his abilities. He’s been inconsistent for us but I’ve always wondered how much of that is to do with two issues that shouldn’t be a problem over there. One is that he’s never really had a hugely dominant pack to play on the back of and the other is that I feel he mentally switches off because the league isn’t the most intense over here.
I shall look forward to watching how he goes and I hope he’s a success but it really is a 50/50 for me. His record in big games doesn’t fill me with a lot of hope.
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| Quote ="post"Where’s he going to play? Right sided half because Wighton plays on the left and I can’t see him being shifted for Williams.'"
I don't know why anyone would even care. He's gone now. Good luck to him, he's no longer a Wigan player. End of.
It's like wondering what your ex-girlfriend is up to...
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| Quote ="Cruncher"I honestly believe that some folk have a blind spot where George is concerned.
There's no doubt about his talent or his physical prowess, but we've all seen him drift through matches that he could have have injected himself into a lot more.
He could have been so much better for us. I reckon we've seen him hit his straps 1 in every 3/4 games. Compare that to Hastings, who has micro-managed Salford's attack all year, and propelled them right to the top of SL by his own personal example.
I thought GW had all the tools when he first came on the scene. But we've only seen that in flashes.
Whether he'll replicate that in Australia, or quickly learn that it'll mean he gets dropped permanently, remains to be seen.'"
Spot on Cruncher, see you and me have similar mindset. We may not always agree but we speak our minds. Lots of people dont like to hear the truth.
Williams does not have the strength of mind to make it in the NRL. When he is faced with stiff defence and things are not going to plan, he drifts out of the game as he did V Salford when he should of stepped up and took the game by the scruff of the neck and demanded the ball.
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| GW has the potential to flourish in the NRL. He is sometimes 2/3 plays in front of everyone else, sees things that others don’t and tries to put people in gaps they haven’t seen or have the speed to hit. That will all change in the NRL and he should have that calibre of player around him to hit those lines and balls and keep up with his vision.
That being said he’ll also be up against far more robust defensive lines and clever defenders, a huge challenge for any HB and IMO why we get Aussie HB’s over here shining whereas they’re a dim light in the NRL.
I agree with the poster who says he needs to stop drifting in and out of games so much and be more consistent as 1 good game in 3/4 is not good enough. He also needs to stop this running sideways across the defensive line so often, it may come off every now and again but it just looks poor and as though he doesn’t know what he’s doing most of the time. Sometimes it’s best to take the tackle or pass the ball to a runner to take the tackle, get set and go again.
He has got the talent and potential, of that there is no doubt in my mind but it’s up to him to drag himself up a level or 2 and stay at that level consistently.
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| Only player he's put in the clear recently was Naiqama. Just hope the NRL defenses don't suss out his 'hop,skip + a grubber'
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"GW has the potential to flourish in the NRL. He is sometimes 2/3 plays in front of everyone else, sees things that others don’t and tries to put people in gaps they haven’t seen or have the speed to hit. '"
Rubbish mate. Trying to put Williams failures down to him being 2/3 plays in front is the most comical excuse ive ever seen.
By your logic, no half back could ever play to their full potential in this Wigan team so Jackson Hastings will also look poor. How does Hastings look so good in the Salford team when they dont have any great players around him?
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| Quote ="The_Enforcer"Rubbish mate. Trying to put Williams failures down to him being 2/3 plays in front is the most comical excuse ive ever seen.
By your logic, no half back could ever play to their full potential in this Wigan team so Jackson Hastings will also look poor. How does Hastings look so good in the Salford team when they dont have any great players around him?'"
Probably because they have forwards who can make more than 20 metres a set
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| Quote ="KingRoss11"Probably because they have forwards who can make more than 20 metres a set'"
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| Quote ="KingRoss11"Probably because they have forwards who can make more than 20 metres a set'"
I kind of agree with this. But also find it hilarious that two of their props are Mossop and Dudson, as well as Greg Burke, Mark Flanagan etc. All players we’ve had at one point or another who weren’t good enough.
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| Quote ="KingRoss11"Probably because they have forwards who can make more than 20 metres a set'"
Unfortunately, I think this is a bit of an excuse too.
There've been many times in recent years during the George Williams era when we've been in the attack zone but have looked unable to score.
I don't disagree that our pack has long been due a drastic overhaul. But we make it to the opposition's line from time to time, and yet the perception fans have had is that we still lack cutting edge even then. And that is down to our pivots. George and his infamous 'Hail Mary ball' has been a particular problem here.
Anyway, the lad has now gone. The proof of whether he's overrated or has simply been used incorrectly will be in what happens in the NRL. I'll be watching with interest. I hope, for GB's sake, that he does a John Bateman and finds a comfortable home at the highest level, rather than a Ryan Hall and be found out as someone who was a big (but lazy) fish in a small pond.
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