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| Anybody else think its clear as daylight that his best position is fullback? or are most people set against it because of Hampshire?
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| Needs to read rugby league for dummies, section two. How to play the ball. He does well at full back though but not good enough to make it his own.
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| I agree completely. Full back is definitely his best position, but I think ultimately Hampshire will be more effective there, as he will provide a running game and a playmaking role out the back. Sarginson's a great athlete with excellent footwork but he needs to improve his decision making and passing. He frustrates me at centre because he doesn't get his winger away enough.
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| Dan has just turned 21 and has been poorly coached and playing in a battered team until this season. Reckon there's a lot more from him yet.
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| I'll reserve judgement until I see him tested defensively. Playing FB in hammerings v Hull FC and Widnes is one thing, playing there against top teams is another
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| He was good to watch back there and aside from some over eagerness to play the ball too quick he had a great game. He's certainly very good back up and he's young enough to have a crack at making the position his own in the future.
Great to have options.
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| Sarge has been a great find from SW. His display last night would have been hailed as brilliant if we hadn't been totally spoit by watching Matty Bowen and Sam. We've got incredibly high standards back there.
For me Sarge is better than Hampshire. He's better in defence and under the high ball (apart from bumping into Burgess) and his running is just as good. Hampshire however is quite possibly better at SO than Powell or Williams. Great to have a choice though.
Not sure where this leaves Lewis Tierney, who did nothing wrong when he played last year. But at the moment he will be fourth choice (at best).
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| finally got to see him pass the ball too!
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| I like him. Bloody better than Goulding as a centre too
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| Thought he was excellent last night and had a hand in, or created, most of the tries. Superb footwork consistently beat the defensive line and was safe at the back (albeit not tested too much in one on one defence). I think he'd have been MOM were it not for Josh's 5 tries.
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| He had a very good game and his breaks on attack were great and it was his good footwork that got him the space. His kick for one of Charnley's tries was perfectly judged.
Came into the line as well when needed.
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| Quote ="JimmyFairhurst"I like him. Bloody better than Goulding as a centre too'"
I thought Goulding was superb at centre and I'd have him there again for Wakefield at the weekend. He is still the best centre at the club.
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| Goulding is without doubt the most natural centre at the club. He's not got the power of Gelling, the size of Thornley or the pace or footwork of Sarginson but on top form he's still better then all three. His awareness of what's happening around him is good and he's a wingers centre that looks to give them space.
In saying all that though his form hadn't been good enough this season. He played better the other night but he still needs to lift it some more if he's to get his regular spot pace.
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| Ok second attempt at posting this (you would never know I was a first time poster)
Sarge had a stormer and looked very dangerous when attacking the flanks (even more so than bowen sometimes) however the 3 mistakes at play of ball means my MoM after Charnley would have been Faz without a doubt, he made so many meters after collision, very few mistakes in defense, tackled like a deamon plus a couple of tries.
Goulding played his best game this season, with the Sarge has the footwork, Gelling and Thornley have the size and power but Goulding has the ability to release the winger. The best out of the four imo depends on the opposition and if Goulding plays like he did on Wed every game he still is essential to Wigan.
However if Wane can get any of the other three to a point where they can make more space for the winger rather than just meters his starting spot may very well be in more trouble.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Goulding is without doubt the most natural centre at the club. He's not got the power of Gelling, the size of Thornley or the pace or footwork of Sarginson but on top form he's still better then all three. His awareness of what's happening around him is good and he's a wingers centre that looks to give them space.
In saying all that though his form hadn't been good enough this season. He played better the other night but he still needs to lift it some more if he's to get his regular spot pace.'"
People seem to completely ignore the fact that he has had a knee injury for most of the season and the club have been managing this. There have been games when he has played and he really shouldnt have done. Even on Wednesday it still didnt seem right at times.
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| Quote ="Listerofsmeg"Ok second attempt at posting this (you would never know I was a first time poster)
Sarge had a stormer and looked very dangerous when attacking the flanks (even more so than bowen sometimes) however the 3 mistakes at play of ball means my MoM after Charnley would have been Faz without a doubt, he made so many meters after collision, very few mistakes in defense, tackled like a deamon plus a couple of tries.
Goulding played his best game this season, with the centres Sarge has the footwork, Gelling and Thornley have the size and power but Goulding has the ability to release the winger. The best out of the four imo depends on the opposition and if Goulding plays like he did on Wed every game he still is essential to Wigan.
However if Wane can get any of the other three to a point where they can make more space for the winger rather than just meters his starting spot may very well be in more trouble.'"
Good post. Gelling catches the eye of many for his bullocking runs dragging men with him in the tackle but he's not a wingers centre yet. I agree about Faz. He was very good and his support play top notch.
I sometimes wonder if Faz might not make a good centre. He looks great in the back row against sides like Widnes but against a big pack he tends to get beaten up a bit in the pack whereas he's plenty big enough for centre and has the pace.
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| Quote ="DaveO"Good post. Gelling catches the eye of many for his bullocking runs dragging men with him in the tackle but he's not a wingers centre yet. I agree about Faz. He was very good and his support play top notch.
I sometimes wonder if Faz might not make a good centre. He looks great in the back row against sides like Widnes but against a big pack he tends to get beaten up a bit in the pack whereas he's plenty big enough for centre and has the pace.'"
But is a terrible passer of the ball Dave...that's when he bothers to pass in the first place! Great running 2nd row but nothing like good enough hands or decision making for the centres.
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