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| If the referee can go to the video ref for offside for a try from a kick why can't he check for offside from an interception? Ormsby was about two yards offside at the ptb when he intercepted Bowens pass.
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| i would have thought that they could, did someone say they couldn't?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"If the referee can go to the video ref for offside for a try from a kick why can't he check for offside from an interception? Ormsby was about two yards offside at the ptb when he intercepted Bowens pass.'"
I don't think there is a specific rule saying they can't, is there? Is it not that Bentham simply chose not to?
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| They can as far as I aware....? The ref tells the video ref what he wants him to look for,
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| Quote ="Grimmy"They can as far as I aware....? The ref tells the video ref what he wants him to look for,'"
It may be one for "ask the ref" on twitter next week then.
"If you can why didn't you?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"It may be one for "ask the ref" on twitter next week then.
"If you can why didn't you?'"
Personally got no problems with that try, it would be given 100 times out of a 100 in a non-televised game. I don't want that to become the next "that would've stood if it wasn't on Sky" issue, like chalking tries off for obstruction for dummy runners has become. The on-field refs need to be better at spotting that players haven't got back 10.
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| I didn't think he was offside, we played the ball just over the 40m line and they were behind the halfway line. Our centre and winger were too flat so it was a line ball that Ormsby read well as he left an overlap if he missed it
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| Quote ="pie.warrior"I didn't think he was offside, we played the ball just over the 40m line and they were behind the halfway line. Our centre and winger were too flat so it was a line ball that Ormsby read well as he left an overlap if he missed it'"
Agreed. Didn't look offside to me, certainly not 2 yards offside.
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| They highlighted it on sky. It clearly showed he was offside. I'm not too bothered he didn't go to the VR though, there is someone offside at every play the ball.
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| Quote ="pie.warrior"I didn't think he was offside, we played the ball just over the 40m line and they were behind the halfway line. Our centre and winger were too flat so it was a line ball that Ormsby read well as he left an overlap if he missed it'"
On Sky it was highlighted and he was cleary 2 yards offside, cant believe the touch judge missed it. At the same time I would hate for every try to be passed to the video ref on the off chance that someone was offside.
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| Hi All, been reading and lurking for a while and finally decided to post on here. This may have been covered before with regards to offside but is there any point the touch judges call this? Never seems to be a TJ call on offside or much else these days.
Apologies if this will drag us off topic too but should we not incorporate the NRL video ref style now. Still make our refs make a decision instead of them going I'm not sure let someone else do it
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| Quote ="maverick_winger"Hi All, been reading and lurking for a while and finally decided to post on here. This may have been covered before with regards to offside but is there any point the touch judges call this? Never seems to be a TJ call on offside or much else these days.
Apologies if this will drag us off topic too but should we not incorporate the NRL video ref style now. Still make our refs make a decision instead of them going I'm not sure let someone else do it'"
The touch judges are mic'd up to the ref. They often have input on offsides but fans won't be aware when it's happened
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| It just seems there's a lot missed that is infront of their eyes. do we think the ref's are over ruling them more often than not?
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| Quote ="maverick_winger"It just seems there's a lot missed that is infront of their eyes. do we think the ref's are over ruling them more often than not?'"
Depends where it is on the pitch, whether the player gets involved etc. The ref is the arbitrator of the game after all so the buck stops with him really. Having said that I do sit in the stands sometimes and think I'm watching a different game to some people with the amount of time they spend shouting 'offside' and 'forward'. How boring the game would be if they were all given!
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| It's also true that many of us will has been critical of a decision when at the ground, only to find out later that the ref's were actually right, and we were wrong.. Thats the fun of it all. And, of course, Ref's make mistakes too, as do the players.
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| Quote ="maverick_winger"It just seems there's a lot missed that is infront of their eyes. do we think the ref's are over ruling them more often than not?'"
Whether they can hear or take note in the heat of the moment is another thing though. Wigan had a try against someone at the DW last year and the touch judge had shouted off side but Bentham had given the try before saying "did someone shout off side".....but it was too late as he'd given it.
Might have been a forward rather than off side but its the same point. You can hear the ref communications on the Wigan TV Coverage. Useful sometimes. Although I think they should have commentary on instead.
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| Quote ="Bilko"Whether they can hear or take note in the heat of the moment is another thing though. Wigan had a try against someone at the DW last year and the touch judge had shouted off side but Bentham had given the try before saying "did someone shout off side".....but it was too late as he'd given it.
Might have been a forward rather than off side but its the same point. You can hear the ref communications on the Wigan TV Coverage. Useful sometimes. Although I think they should have commentary on instead.
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| Quote ="Bilko"Whether they can hear or take note in the heat of the moment is another thing though. Wigan had a try against someone at the DW last year and the touch judge had shouted off side but Bentham had given the try before saying "did someone shout off side".....but it was too late as he'd given it.
Might have been a forward rather than off side but its the same point. You can hear the ref communications on the Wigan TV Coverage. Useful sometimes. Although I think they should have commentary on instead.
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Did the TJ not stand off the flag to indicate no try?
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| Quote ="Grimmy"Depends where it is on the pitch, whether the player gets involved etc. The ref is the arbitrator of the game after all so the buck stops with him really. Having said that I do sit in the stands sometimes and think I'm watching a different game to some people with the amount of time they spend shouting 'offside' and 'forward'. How boring the game would be if they were all given!'"
Thats true, the amount of fans round us who regularly shout get em onside as soon as the 1st PTB is amazing. Sure they haven't taken note of where everyone is it's just a standard shout for them
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| I did ask the question @RLferees #askthe ref and the answer was No we cannot check for offside on the 10 metres, it's an onfield decision.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I did ask the question @RLferees #askthe ref and the answer was No we cannot check for offside on the 10 metres, it's an onfield decision.'"
Fair does, you live and you learn!
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| Quote ="leg_end"
Are you touting for the job?
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A deal to use a local radio stations commentary wouldn't be a daft idea.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I did ask the question @RLferees #askthe ref and the answer was No we cannot check for offside on the 10 metres, it's an onfield decision.'"
I noticed too that they gave that response on twitter. But a SL referee actually said that it is not written in the rules that they cannot go to the video ref for offside on an interception but they have an agreement between the referees that they will not do this as they would end up checking every interception and disrupting the flow of the game.
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| Quote ="bob13"I noticed too that they gave that response on twitter. But a SL referee actually said that it is not written in the rules that they cannot go to the video ref for offside on an interception but they have an agreement between the referees that they will not do this as they would end up checking every interception and disrupting the flow of the game.'"
But, there are less tries scored from interceptions than from kicks and the referees generally check for offside from the kick. They don't check with the video ref from a kick in open play, only for tries, so they could /should do the same for a try scored from an interception.
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