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| Thought McIlorum was outstanding today, and the only Wigan player who out played his opposite number.
His aggression and fearlessness didn't go unnoticed by the commentary team.
Hope we can keep hold of the best hooker in the world.
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| Had a great game Micky. Some of his tackling was ferocious stuff!
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| Not sure about outplayed his opposite number?
Didn't Roosters number 9 win MOM?
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| Quote ="Knutty ford"Not sure about outplayed his opposite number?
Didn't Roosters number 9 win MOM?'"
Exactly what I thought. Friend was excellent.
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| Quote ="Ranger"
Hope we can keep hold of the best hooker in the world.'"
not even the best hooker in his country! fair play,gutsy effort from him today though.
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| McIllorum and O'loughlin were both our best players. If the Wigan forwards had managed to get on top McIllorum would of stood out in attack but sadly most of his work was defending which he did a great job and stood out. Put Friend in the Wigan team today and he wouldn't of been anywhere near MOM.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"icon_lol.gif
not even the best hooker in his country! fair play,gutsy effort from him today though.'"
Never stopped Leeds fans calling Hall the World's Best Winger.
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| 2 forwards passes out of dummy half is not outstanding. His distribution is the weakest part of his game by far which isn't good for a hooker.
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"2 forwards passes out of dummy half is not outstanding. His distribution is the weakest part of his game by far which isn't good for a hooker.'"
Agree with this, we really needed to get a foothold in the game early on and a few daft errors meant we couldn't do so, including the 2 silly short forward passes from dummy half by McIlorum. He was outstanding afterwards, but I think the occassion got to a few of our players in the opening stages, and frankly it was game over after 25 minutes.
We're really struggling to make metres out of our own half, and the long kicking game from Green and Smith isn't up to scratch. We were starting the majority of our sets in our own 20, making less than 30m then finding Minichello on the full, so Sydney were starting their sets at least 30m further up the field than we were.
I'm pretty disappointed tbh, I don't think we gave a good account of ourselves and we only really played well for 10-15 minutes in the 2nd half, then any momentum we had built with the 3 quick tries was soon nullified by Dudson with the loose carry in to the first collision, followed by the Roosters quickly scoring to make it a 16 point deficit. After the defeat by St George in 2011 I was happy that we'd given our all and were beaten by a better team on the day, today it just feels like we made it very easy for a world-class team to beat us.
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| Solid but sometimes gets too carried away with the hard stuff, thought at times today he could have run from DH a bit more - just after half time Lockers was jumping into DH and running a few steps then passing and it got the opposition on the back foot. McIlorum could do that a bit more - the best hookers offer that bit more attack.
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not even the best hooker in his country! fair play,gutsy effort from him today though.'"
Matter of opinion but I wouldn't swap MM for any other hooker in SL. He's excellent in his position and can still improve. That's a great position for a player to be in and he's still young. Won't be long till the NRL come knocking!
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| Quote ="Bigredwarrior"Matter of opinion but I wouldn't swap MM for any other hooker in SL. He's excellent in his position and can still improve. That's a great position for a player to be in and he's still young. Won't be long till the NRL come knocking!'"
Of course it is, and im not saying i dont rate MM, he is certainly one of the best in SL.I was just amused by the comment of best in the World which surely even the most Blinkered Wigan fan realises he isnt even close.Cameron Smith is a million miles ahead of anyone,and that is without starting the debate about where MM ranks amongst the best of the rest.
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| As s neutral I agree your hooker played well ,but for me the forward who impressed with his strong brave running and courage tackling was flowers I thought he was outstanding
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| Flower and Farrell were the pick of the forwards with Lockers not far behind.
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| I loved watching McIlorum hammering away at Warea-Hargreaves in the second half. He really will go at anybody and have a dig which makes me smile even more when I think that I've actually seen people on the Saints forum call him a coward.
He's one of the toughest players in world rugby league.
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| Quote ="CM Punk"Never stopped Leeds fans calling Hall the World's Best Winger.
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Or the Aussies who have included him in the world team of the year more than once.
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| Quote ="BuckleyStreetWire"Or the Aussies who have included him in the world team of the year more than once.'"
Sinfield won the best player in the world over a year ago. He is not even the best player at his club.
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| Quote ="tank123"Sinfield won the best player in the world over a year ago. He is not even the best player at his club.'"
That's true.
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| Typical Wigan the thread is about McIlorum and it ends up sagging off two Leeds players.
FWIW I agree what you are saying about Sinfield and Hall.
But for me McIlorum played well today which is more that you could say for the likes of Green and Bowen who were terrible.
Be interesting to see how many matches your other import gets.
On the day no other team from England would have beaten the Roosters and all credit to Wigan for giving it a go.
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| This is the thing that really irritates me as a rugby fan. Yes McIlorum hit a few players hard, but 'outstanding' because of it? It's not just confined to McIlorum either, seems that a few big hits counts for a lot more than a player's general play in fans eye's
His distribution was poor and how a hooker can be pulled back for 2 forward passes from the ptb is incredible, especially in a big game where you were desperate for some ball. Not forgetting that stupid late hit on the kicker too?
Yeah, bravo
Why no thread about Pettybourne, SOL or Burgess who were actually very impressive?
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| Lockers was our best player. But McM has become overall one of the best 9s in the game, alongside Roby.
Sad thing is I can't see McM being at Wigan much longer, I hate to say it, and people will undoubtedly misunderstand my next comment, but he's now too good for Wigan, or any SL team. Same goes for Charnley.
Lockers, a 1 club man who's good enough to play NRL are a dying breed at Wigan.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Lockers was our best player. But McM has become overall one of the best 9s in the game, alongside Roby.
Sad thing is I can't see McM being at Wigan much longer, I hate to say it, and people will undoubtedly misunderstand my next comment, but he's now too good for Wigan, or any SL team. Same goes for Charnley.
Lockers, a 1 club man who's good enough to play NRL are a dying breed at Wigan.'"
Is O'Loughlin not too good for Wigan then if you think McIlorum is? O'Loughlin is definitely the better of the two in my opinion.
McIlorum is a good player but he isn't the best in SL and he certainly isn't one of the best in the world. For every big hit he does, he either misses a tackle or throws a poor pass.
To suggest he is too good for SL is well wide of the mark.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Lockers was our best player. But McM has become overall one of the best 9s in the game, alongside Roby.
Sad thing is I can't see McM being at Wigan much longer, I hate to say it, and people will undoubtedly misunderstand my next comment, but he's now too good for Wigan, or any SL team. Same goes for Charnley.
Lockers, a 1 club man who's good enough to play NRL are a dying breed at Wigan.'"
But why are only Wigan plundered, there are some other good players out there, albeit not enough. The likes of Crabtree, Roby, Houghton, Watkins, Hall, Hardacre could give it a shake over there but seem to go under the radar.
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| Quote ="Finfin"But why are only Wigan plundered, there are some other good players out there, albeit not enough. The likes of Crabtree, Roby, Houghton, Watkins, Hall, Hardacre could give it a shake over there but seem to go under the radar.'"
Roby has now turned down 3 NRL offers to stay at Saints. It's not that all other players go under the radar, it's just that it doesn't appeal to everyone the same.
And don't forget Bradford lost 3 Burgess brothers, Leeds lost Luke Burgess and Saints lost James Graham.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"Roby has now turned down 3 NRL offers to stay at Saints. It's not that all other players go under the radar, it's just that it doesn't appeal to everyone the same.
And don't forget Bradford lost 3 Burgess brothers, Leeds lost Luke Burgess and Saints lost James Graham.'"
Its about attitude (of the respective chairmen) IL is a great chairmen and has done so much for wigan, but he does need to get tougher with respect to players going. The NRL teams know Wigan wont even try and stop players leaving, they probably treated the WCC as a shopping trip.
Sam was a special case, it was always going to be very hard to keep someone that special. The other players you've lost though, under contract? IL should set a marker down with Charnley and do what it takes to keep him.
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