Just watching Backchat and can't believe Stevo genuinely believe's this? Surely he's on a wind up to say this about a group of players that have won the Grand Final and Challenge Cup final in the past 2 years!

Wigan are mentally tough Stevo is just talking through his !

He mentally bloody challenged.

It may be that Stevo is right, or at least that Wigan are not as "mentally tough" as Leeds - the statistics would seem to bear this out. Regardless of this, I was given the distinct impression while watching the "Backchat" programme that the other participants are becoming increasingly weary of Stevo's attempts to propogate meaningless arguments.

What stats are those, first win in 7 against Wigan hardly suggest this.

Back chat has just gone downhill quite quickly. It would be great if it wasn't for Rod Studd and Stevo. They ruin it and turn it into the same sort of vacuous crap you get from the Sky commentary team.

As for Wigan not being mentally tough, the two trophies in two years proves otherwise, although the team is perhaps not as good in the big games as Leeds are. I doubt that's surprising though as they have some very experienced players who have won countless trophies over their careers.

Don't confuse them with facts.

Losses in Knock out games - Leeds x2, Saints x1

Wins in Knock Out Games - St Helens x3, Leeds x2, Warrington x1

Thats since 2010 against (what I'm classing as) the big sides, the period they panned us for. The arguments on that programme were total garbage really.

Not knocking Leeds, they deserved it Saturday, but they've had cup drawns v Leigh and Salford this year and got Cas in the semi last season. We've had, clearly, the hardest cup draws and ain't done too badly out of it!

Yes, but you can prove[i anything [/iwith facts.

We are worse in the "big games" than Leeds.

Absolutely no doubt in my mind that this is the case.

We really need to learn the winning habit and desire of great teams, and quickly.

Sure Warrington knocked Wigan out of the challenge cup in 2010, or have you just excluded that stat??

Rod Studd is getting on my wick, doesn't give anyone else a chance to speak and even Stevo can't get a word in sideways with him

No. youve just made up that fact!
Leeds beat wigan in 2010 which the poster has mentioned

You mean like the Challenge Cup Final last year? oh..... hang on.

No. Got it. You must mean the Play-off Semi-Final the year before........... Damn. Not that one either.

Sorry. You're going to have to remind me of just precisely WHICH "big games" you're talking about.

That is just a load of old tosh. There is only really Warrrington at home we seem to suffer against, Other than that big games are a mixed bag. On our way to lifting the Challenge cup last year we beat St. Helens away, Warrington away and Leeds in the final. Now last season we had a few funny results, Catalans home and away, Just scraping past Hull at home and drawing with Castleford. We have smashed apart those 3 teams this season and that is not to mention, Leeds, St. Helens and Huddersfield. Sure it's disappointing when we get beat but Leeds had a good game plan and harassed us into submission and well done to them. Every team has an off day, Just a pity ours was in a cup match. We have to concentrate on getting Matty Smith integrated into the team and getting Fielden back in the pack somewhere. I am expecting to end the season with a flourish, Once Tommy is back we have him, Finch and Smith all swapping and interchanging, The opposition will be dizzy/ Then we can look forward to next season. Plenty of choice up front with all the young lads playing an important part at some point this season gaining valuable experience. We have all the lads out on loan getting the experience and of course we (hopefully) can look forward to the announcement of a stellar signing to replace Finch. With any luck Gelling will be moved on and Russell will take his place.

I've seen three episodes and they've all been sh*te.

think we are not mentally ready to be considered a great side yet, but to say we are not mentally tough is wrong.

remember it took leeds a long time of getting close and bombing it to help give them this big game experience that they do enjoy at the minute. we are only 2 seasons in to what we hope will be a successful period in this clubs history. wait till the likes of sam/charnley/goulding/mcilorum/hock/HH have all played in 4/5 finals and we will see a big difference in how we manage these games.

Anybody who considers Stevo's opinions of any importance isn't 'mentally tough', just mental !!!!

We do have a bit of an issue with big games at the DW. Our record against Wire is woeful and against Saints at home there is some room for improvement, but we've also contrived to lose games when there have been big crowds on at the DW to teams we shouldn't have lost to, the likes of Harlequins in 2010 (18.6k on for the Big One fixture I think) and more recently in front of a big crowd at Bradford

I'm partially in agreement with Stevo and BK. I'd say there is a weakness there that SW and the team need to address.

Your absolutely correct... it was the year before... easy mistake!

Don’t take him on, he’s just trying to throw a Spaniard in the works, and as he likes to say, about every five minutes or so, “it’s as simple as that”

I like Rod Studd he wants to run a fast paced show and cover as many topics as he can. The journos don't have a problem with Rod or his pace of speech but Mike Stevenson does.
Stevo simply can't keep up with him at his pace. Hence how many times was Stevo prompted for an answer, spouted nonsense, then Rod had to say repeatedly "I know that". Stevo looked so slow it was unreal.
They need to replace Stevo with another journo

To me it seems like Rod Studd deliberately interrupts Stevo no matter what and tries to get him animated. At times he interrupts before Stevo is even allowed to answer the question and it just seems like that's what they think the viewers want. It just doesn't seem natural some of the journalists have given long winded answers or gone off on a tangent without Rod Studd berating them.

It absolutely spoils the show for me. Even if Stevo is a bit slow to get his points across it takes much longer with the constant interruptions than it would if he was just allowed to speak.

I also think those little hints when they are plugging the show during commentary about big arguments and bickering between Rod Studd and Stevo give away that it's deliberate and that's what they think people want to see.

Stevo is the problem. In the last prog they were trying to discuss when VR should be used, Stevo kept banging on about who should be VR. Far to loquacious, and slow to get to any sort of point.

At first Stevo was very good on the show. He even made some sensible points and didn't waffle on or go over the top and was generally allowed to say what he wanted to say.
That's why I think it's RS or possibly the shows producers who have orchestrated all the nonsense that there is now. It could be the both of them, but week after week RS has been getting more and more ridiculous and making his voice heard more often and I don't think it works anywhere near as well as it did in the first few weeks.