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| The sniping has started already. The lad has half an offer, a glimmer of hope allbeit from agent Millward to try to resurrect his career. Give him a chance and let's see if he can still hack it at the top. We couldn't get Gaz Hock back quick enough after a ban and he's not playing badly is he?
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| Quote ="hillsider"The sniping has started already. The lad has half an offer, a glimmer of hope allbeit from agent Millward to try to resurrect his career. Give him a chance and let's see if he can still hack it at the top. We couldn't get Gaz Hock back quick enough after a ban and he's not playing badly is he?'"
How many 2nd/3rd/4th chances should Gleeson have?
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| how long was his ban?
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| Quote ="jimlav"how long was his ban?'"
3 years with 18 months suspended.
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| It's a very old article. I feel sorry for Gleesons most recent of shames, it doesn't feel right that he was banned for drugs, maybe lying to try to save his old mate Long from the same fate cost him dear.
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| Quote ="[Gareth"How many 2nd/3rd/4th chances should Gleeson have?'"
Even though I actually felt quite sorry for him with regards the Hull situation, he's used up lots of chances and you know the current Cas environment is the last place he should be.
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| Quote ="hillsider"The sniping has started already. The lad has half an offer, a glimmer of hope allbeit from agent Millward to try to resurrect his career. Give him a chance and let's see if he can still hack it at the top. We couldn't get Gaz Hock back quick enough after a ban and he's not playing badly is he?'"
I'm not sniping at Gleese I'm saying that Cas maybe isn't the right environment for him. I think he needs to be at a club like Wigan but we won't go anywhere near him.
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| Quote ="Pemps"www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/drug-shame-star-martin-gleeson-158767
He'll go well with Chase and Owen around.'"
and didn't Ryan Hudson get banned for roids?
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| Quote ="Pemps"www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/drug-shame-star-martin-gleeson-158767
He'll go well with Chase and Owen around.'"
old story ..Jan 2012?
ok..lets break it down
does the offer still stand 6 months later and with a new exec guy at cas?
he can train from next month, but cant play until november,ie next season.
i think Chase is still a persona non grata at cas? and prob wont be there next season anyway...so lets see how this unfolds.
personally i think he'll blow yet another "last chance"
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| never mind chase, owen, hudson cas fans should be more worried about gleeson and tansey becoming best pals they have the exact same interests that being alot of drinking and bill hills.
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| Great talent who has just crapped on his employers and fans trust repeatedly. Had many chances to sort himself out, and i'm a rather tolerant person, but he has just gone too too far.
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| His next chance will be his last chance.
Widnes might be a better club and environment for him as he will know, with them, any messing around and it will be all over!
Still hope he can make a go of it and stay out of trouble.
A real talent!
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| Quote ="Jeff the God of Biscuits"3 years with 18 months suspended.'"
Crazy to think he got that and Hock got 2 years for taking a social drug.
I can never quite get my head round drug punishments.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Crazy to think he got that and Hock got 2 years for taking a social drug.
I can never quite get my head round drug punishments.'"
Careful, you will have half of the forums here telling you that it's performance enhancing too - about the same as a cup of coffee but don't let that stop 'em.
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| Quote ="goobervision"Careful, you will have half of the forums here telling you that it's performance enhancing too - about the same as a cup of coffee but don't let that stop 'em.'"
I'm not 100% on this, but i think it has some "masking" effect, hence the reason it carries a ban. But as you say, that carries an implication, whereas an actual enhancing drug is just that.
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| Quote ="Father Ted"His next chance will be his last chance.
Widnes might be a better club and environment for him as he will know, with them, any messing around and it will be all over!
Still hope he can make a go of it and stay out of trouble.
A real talent!'"
His name has come up a few times as a possible signing with the majority saying he would be too much of a risk. I just hope the guy is well and knows what he is doing, you worry what another relapse would do to his already fragile state of mind, or maybe he is genuinely past all of that, I certainly hope so.
Given our experiences with Moore and Watts I think the Club would be very wary of taking another chance.
My guess is he would have to knuckle down in the Championship and show he still had it before anyone would think of taking him back into Superleague. Millward may of course be the exception.
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| I just hope it goes well.
In some ways I think it's wrong that the others involved got worse bans than he did and the fact that he helped the cover up too but looks to have served a smaller ban than hock who took a non performance enhancing drug. Now I'm not saying hocks ban shouldve been shorter before someone jumps down my throat I mean that gleesons should've been much longer at least the whole 3 years.
The problem with Gleeson is that I can see him going down a similar route to Newton and I really don't want to see that and that's why I'm kind of glad he's been allowed back it does seem to show that the rfl learnt from what happened to Newton. But I worry that if it goes badly he may still go that way but here's hoping he doesn't. And that he doesn't tear us apart at some point too! Haha
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